medals- orginal?

[crazy horse]

Learn from our mistakes. Thanks for your help

hey I got burned before too, because I'm a newb & didn't know what to look for, that is why I am glad I found this place these guys have taught me a lot & I'm still learning, so I read everything they say & really look at what they point out. I can't thank the people on here enough, they are very helpful & honest.

[Woolgar]

A fake yes but not a Floch.

Hi Adrian

I have just been looking at the Floch article and it mentions and highlights overlapping threads on the inner corners. The EK on this thread appears to have exactly the same. Is this a common fakers trait?

Cheers

Nick

[fabri]

Nice one Fabri Even the lettering doesnt look right compared to the comparison pics, a certain fake!
Here is a close shot of the eagle on mine
Nick

Nick, thank you.
But have you seen that the 2 eagles in your pic are not the identical ?

[Gew44]

I add pics of a "5" good, for your DB an for comparison.
Hope this help.

[StuG III]

Nick, thank you.
But have you seen that the 2 eagles in your pic are not the identical ?

I was just going to mention that. The silver medal looks to be a fake. Unless Nick used them to show the difference between the two? Note the "t" at end of "wehrmacht", also a quick give away.
Tom

[Adrian]

Hi Adrian

I have just been looking at the Floch article and it mentions and highlights overlapping threads on the inner corners. The EK on this thread appears to have exactly the same. Is this a common fakers trait?

Cheers

Nick

Sorry guys, just got home and checked. I was thinking of a completely different type of fake. The cross John posted is a Floch.

I edited my original post to avoid confusion..........mainly mine!

[fabri]

I was just going to mention that. The silver medal looks to be a fake. Unless Nick used them to show the difference between the two? Note the "t" at end of "wehrmacht", also a quick give away.
Tom

Yes there are many differences with the golden medal.
I have maken a little research because it 's not my field and sometimes memory don't support me well but all good ones I have found are exactly like the golden just mentioned.
In the same time I don't like some details of the silver medal that I remember as a fake.
I 'm very sorry for these bad news..

[Adrian]

Just for the record, here is another EK2 marked with a '5' for Hermann Wernstein. The cross is an original S&L type. There is debate whether this maker prduced EKs as no award envelope has been found marked for Wernstein, no other supporting evidence has been found and the type of stamps found on the rings varies widely.
However......
It's always a good idea to keep an open mind when collecting as we don't and probably may never know for sure either way. After all we have genuine envelopes marked for manufacturers with no evidence of crosses so why not crosses with no evidence of packets etc etc.....
Nobody (IMO) should dismiss any possibility when we don't really know.

[Woolgar]

Yes there are many differences with the golden medal.
I have maken a little research because it 's not my field and sometimes memory don't support me well but all good ones I have found are exactly like the golden just mentioned.
In the same time I don't like some details of the silver medal that I remember as a fake.
I 'm very sorry for these bad news..

Its a funny world! It passed ok on the WAF
Heer 4 & 12 year medals - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

[Snni]

There are different eagles on the original long service medals. It depends of the maker.

Here is mine. I will post some better pictures of the eagles later.