Need some help on originality and price!

[Bas Jonkers]

You didn't spot the fake EK2 and ribbon.

Keep away from the auctions, stick to dealers.

SOME fakes :P. With that i mean i know that every tinnie is real because they aren't being reproduced. Most medals have sharp wings. If not its probably fake.Etc. Know nothing bout EK's.
Is this one real? Cause i've chosen a new present because this one is just a disaster.

Ive also chosen some other items that i will show later because right now im sick... And it aint good for me to be sitting in front of this screen when im sick.

[Adrian]

Tinnies are being reproduced! Not on a large scale it's true but the rarer ones are being faked.

Impossible to tell on the EK you've just posted because the photos are so small.

[Bas Jonkers]

Tinnies are being reproduced! Not on a large scale it's true but the rarer ones are being faked.

Impossible to tell on the EK you've just posted because the photos are so small.

Didn't know the rarer ones where being reproduced but i did know about the small ones wich are like... 15 euros around that.

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Tinnies are being reproduced! Not on a large scale it's true but the rarer ones are being faked.

Impossible to tell on the EK you've just posted because the photos are so small.

http://www.militariaplaza.nl/medals/4684-ww2-iron-cross-2nd-class
Here is the ad.

[Adrian]

It's an original '75' - unknown maker.

[Bas Jonkers]

It's an original '75' - unknown maker.

Thanks alot. MY Bday pres is ''sealed'' i guess . Here is everytihng else im getting
Panzer death notice,
POW luftwaffe death notice,
''Ja'' pin. Issued in 1933 for the voters of Mussert,
Very nice Panzer portrait photo (with cap and visible patches),
And the EK2 shown in the link i gave.

Please do not steal any of these before i get them... They're my own Bday presents.
PICS

[Paul D]

You must also be aware of fake photos especially SS , Panzer, RKT, etc , all these are heavily faked so you need to learn about them also if you are going to spend your money on them !!

[gerrit]

For what i know i already have a nice collection... and im close to already a year of collecting. I know how to spot some fakes... BTW the auction site is made by Ebay. big international militaria sites advertise on there. Theres so much crap on there because ads are free!D:

You think a year of collecting makes an expert?
A lot of gents here are doing that for 30-40 years and are still learning.
Im dutch too and the dutch sellers arent well known for their honestly, i am collecting for over 35 years and still learning.
Try to learn from their experience, and dont go in defence, in the end gents like Adrian can save you lots of money!

Cheers Ger

[Bas Jonkers]

You think a year of collecting makes an expert?
A lot of gents here are doing that for 30-40 years and are still learning.
Im dutch too and the dutch sellers arent well known for their honestly, i am collecting for over 35 years and still learning.
Try to learn from their experience, and dont go in defence, in the end gents like Adrian can save you lots of money!

Cheers Ger

That is not what i said at all? I said i know SOME things... :/

[Adrian]

Well Bas,

As I didn't respond on the thread you started earlier I will give you a few of my thoughts here which I'm sure you won't mind.

If you think my post #19 is hateful I will put it down to a language barrier or maybe a lack of experience of the forum community on your part. However, your command of English and the type of language you use suggests otherwise. There can be no doubt that my reply (post #19) was not in any way shape or form 'hateful'. I specifically used the smileys to make sure there was no opportunity for you or anyone to take it otherwise.

It is also worth noting that the members here saved you from a €125 mistake for which I don't believe any of them received a 'thank you' from you. Not only that, you didn't protest on my 'hateful' post until today and in the intervening period of time still asked for my help on authenticating an EK2 which I presume you want to buy. So, how is it that you can interpret post #19 as being hateful, yet you still ask for my help, get it and then decide to start a thread on the forum to condemn my entirely non 'hateful' comments?

The post which you object to is nothing but fact. You stated that you can spot some fakes, I pointed out that you didn't spot the fake EK2 and ribbon. That is not 'hateful', it is a fact and I have made you aware of it. You have only been collecting for a short amount of time. I've been collecting since before you were born, as have many members here, some have been collecting since before I was born.
It doesn't pay to get too carried away or sure of yourself or dismiss the advice and comments made here by members with a wealth of experience you can only dream of.

Gerrit's post was also not 'hateful', it was designed to offer you advice and make you realise that after less than a year of collecting you do not have the experience of others here.

If you wish to treat members - and I don't mean just me in this way you will find yourself very short of friends and very quickly. Why on earth would anyone want to help you out if their innocent comments are going to be used against them in a childish tantrum when you feel like it. People are trying to help you here and keep you from making an expensive mistake. I wish I had €125 at you age to spend on medals.

As Nick said in the thread you started, don't bite the hand that feeds you. I suggest a private message to Gerrit apologising to him for the way you openly attacked him on the forum is in order from you.

Your attitude towards both myself and Gerrit is nothing short of appalling especially when you do this after you've been helped out. You need to take a step back and think about how you've conducted yourself today, how you want to go forward here and your future conduct. Having a bout of sensitivity over nothing as and when you feel like it will not be tolerated I will make that very clear right now.

My questions above do not need to be answered here on the forum, just in your own mind. I have no time for this and will now get back to discussing militaria. You are very welcome to join in.

[Glenn66]

FWIW I didn't like the Memel medal either, the detail was soft, the suspension ring looked to be soldered on with snot and the ribbon appeared dodgy also. Hope i'm not being too hateful with these observations?