U-Bootkriegsabzeichen

[Norm F]

Hi Guys,

I think it's a just a heavily worn original which has been repainted, as stated. Both the wear and the painting make the detail poor.

Best regards,
---Norm

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I washed the color

[24th Panzer Division]

I would pass on this one.
The reverse cut outs are incorrect, the maker's mark is incorrect, and there is a lack of detail around the conning tower and the rudder/propeller area.
Wait for other opinions though.
Ralph.

The "Gold" aint correct but the medal looks ok? no expert. That brings me to a related point-look at the gold color used on wreaths-you can tell good from bad easily enough. Fakers still as yet have been able to exactly match the same gold used in WWII. I don't have my KM badges available to post, but i've got three that are great examples to look at and study.

[real steel]

The "Gold" aint correct but the medal looks ok? no expert. That brings me to a related point-look at the gold color used on wreaths-you can tell good from bad easily enough. Fakers still as yet have been able to exactly match the same gold used in WWII. I don't have my KM badges available to post, but i've got three that are great examples to look at and study.

If Norm says it's good...it is. As Ralph & I stated. Some members here claiming items are bad when they are real is very dangerous. Do your research before replying fellas.
D.

[24th Panzer Division]

On this one, my main concern was teaching others about the gold paint mi amigo. ;-)) I used to have a fairly sizable KM collection, but got rid of them to favor Army instead. Most went to a big collection in Washington and in Oregon-and supposedly were supposed to be featured in a book. However, it has been 14 years and counting. Not to sound like a wise guy but, I don't know who Norm is? exxcept the guy from Cheers.

[real steel]

I would pass on this one as well.
At the very best this is a worn badge that looks as though it has been painted with some airfix paint.
However it does look very similar to this fake that has similar very weak details:


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Cheers
Doug

Well....it's this reply I speak of

[24th Panzer Division]

The only KM badges I have left-are one U boat badge-that was given to me by the vet who earned it-as well as a Destroyer Badge-same vet had that one as well, and a 1st pattern E Boat badge that I got lucky on about 15 years ago. All are in perfect shape. The only one actually worn a bit-was the destroyer badge. The above looks great though, and is probably a bit better than mine. The vet first served on destroyers then transferred to U Boats I think early 42 or late 41??? If I remember correctly, his destroyer badge is a F.O. (Friedrich Orth) and his U Boat badge is an L/11??? been years since I last looked.

[real steel]

The only KM badges I have left-are one U boat badge-that was given to me by the vet who earned it-as well as aDestroyer Badge-same vet had that one as well, and a 1st pattern E Boat badge that I got lucky on about 15 years ago. All are in perfect shape. The only one actually worn a bit-was the destroyer badge. The above looks great though, and is probably a bit better than mine.

I understand & agree. My collection of KM badges are all Schwerins in tombac so I don't have to question authenticity. Some of these less known makers can be a problem.
Norm happens to be one of the most experienced KM badge collector known, I hold his opinion above most
D.

[24th Panzer Division]

I love Schwerins, Friedrich Orths as well as Assmanns. Im not a big fan of some of those that other forums made their "Star" badges to collect. Like C.E. Junker etc. But then again, I have never owned one-and only will if one is priced at a reasonable price and not inflated due to another forums status for that maker. I cut way back on my Luftwaffe badges too-selling off all but two to the same collector in Washington-about 14 years ago. I have an early-almost stone mint "A" (Assmann) Pilots badge. The feathering detail in the wings-I have never come across another that equals. The other is a fairly common but mint-Flak Badge.