German documents? what are these? fake?

**huddyhuddy** · 02-13-2013, 06:43 PM

Hi all,

Some advise on these here, no clue on what they are or are they real?

Thanks,
Neil

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-13-2013 06:43 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**tempelhof** · 02-13-2013, 06:47 PM

too many spelling and grammatical errors for my taste.

for example, below the signature line on the right hand page of several of these is the notation "eigenhandige Unterschrift". there is supposed to be an umlaut over the "a" in "eigenhandige".

there are other issues such as these in the documents.

i see them as fake and produced to deceive.

the grammar of the sentence running down the right hand page at the margin is incorrect as well.

some of the blanks ask for information other than what was written into the blank. for example, a blank asking for the last name of the person is filled in with his unit or position.

it appears that the person who produced this was not even a German speaker.

**WarCollector2019** · 02-13-2013, 06:49 PM

Hello,
I have seen at least 10 of these similar to these sell on ebay recently, I saw a SS sell for as much as £700 if I remember correctly.
I believe that all the above items are complete fantasy.
I am sure that some document experts will be along shortly to give you more information.
Thank you, Glen.

**DerStuermer** · 02-13-2013, 06:52 PM

SS Waffen????? SS Panzer???? I think it is a Fake.

**youthcollector1** · 02-13-2013, 06:52 PM

I don't like theses one bit. I have a lot of original I D's from the tr era, and all have the stamp continue onto the photo. All of these, the stamp stops once it reaches the photograph.

**lebus12** · 02-13-2013, 06:53 PM

it ' s all the family!
It's not for you.

**Gunny Hartmann** · 02-13-2013, 06:53 PM

I'll go out on a limb and say garbage!...

i've never heard of a German first name Gelmut!!!!

**bigmacglenn** · 02-13-2013, 06:53 PM

These are all totally fake fantasy items...
cheers, Glenn

**StuG III** · 02-13-2013, 06:56 PM

Similar one was discussed here recently, utter rubbish.

Tom

**Paul D** · 02-13-2013, 06:57 PM

All fakes guys , the photos are of well known RK winners such as Gerd Bremer , but as you will see the names don't match to the photos , spelling, grammer are all wrong they are complete rubbish , i can't believe someone was mugged off for £700 for this trash.

They have featued on the forum before