KVK1 certificate

**Gretschie** · 07-04-2014, 01:59 PM

Hello to you all,

I would like you to have a look at this photo of a KVK 1 certificate. Unfortunatly no medal.

It appears to me to have a genuine signature of Hitler, but I am no expert and I would welcome your opinions,

I realise that its far from ideal to do this via a photo.

Another thing of interest is the named reciever of this award, I have covered the name as I feel I should get it authenticated first.(maybe a bit OTT but please bare with me.)

I would also like to know where I could take this to get it authenticated in the UK.

I've done some research on the internet and I think that the signature dates from around the mid 1920's, what do you think?

Thanks for reading this and I look forward to any replies.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 07-04-2014 01:59 PM

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**John Brandon** · 07-04-2014, 02:56 PM

They were for the most part Auto pen, a facsimile signature that looks the part, but massed produced

**Gretschie** · 07-04-2014, 04:13 PM

Hello again

Here is a better photo of the signature

Something else that I have noticed is that other photo's i've seen of similar certificates have an embossed eagle stamp usually on the bottom left, this one does not have one at all.

**hucks216** · 07-04-2014, 04:17 PM

The signature (and no doubt the citation) is a fake. If you are looking at buying this I would stay clear if I was in your shoes. You say the signature is similar to one from the 1920's but the KvK wasn't instituted until October 1939 - not to mention that Hitler wasn't 'Der Führer' in the 1920's so wouldn't be signing any awards.

As mentioned above, the signature should be a facsimile.

**Gretschie** · 07-04-2014, 04:30 PM

by hucks216

The signature is a fake. If you are looking at buying this I would stay clear if I was in your shoes. You say the signature is similar to one from the 1920's but the KvK wasn't instituted until October 1939 - not to mention that Hitler wasn't 'Der Führer' in the 1920's so wouldn't be signing any awards.

As mentioned above, the signature should be a facsimile.

Thanks

Of course you are correct and i think i'm leaning towards the fact that it is a fake, all things considered that seems the most logical.