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01-06-2017 11:43 PM
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Meanwhile I did some more research and found some interesting data about this Grütte.
A guy told me that Grütte is a rare surname in Germany, only less than a 100 people bear this name nowadays. I looked it up to be sure and I have to agree with him.
This and the following information led to an interesting theory......I would like to hear your opinion about it.
First, the cup contains:
1. a name: Grütte
2. some sort of number: IV-B (roman 4 and a B)
3. a feldpost number: 23419 A
1. Grütte is a rare German surname.
2. If I Google IV-B, the POW camp Stalag IV-B keeps poppin up, nothing else. IV-B (Muhlberg) was one of the biggest POW camps of the German during ww2. Interesting is that after the war it's used by the Russians to incarcerate about 20.000 German soldiers. The engraving IV-B could make sense if this German soldier surrenderd to the Red Army, then got incarcerated by the Russians in Stalag IV-B.
Now it's gets interesting! I found a memorial wall near to IV-B remembering to German soldiers how died in the camp under Russian supervision. Between hundreds of names, there is one Grütte. Willi Grütte, 1913-1947. See picture.
3. The feldpost number on the cup reads 23419 A, this matches with the number of the Stab III. abteilung of the 5th Artillerie-Regiment. This regiment was since 1943 part of the 5th Jäger Division and fouth fiercely in Russia, Ukraine, Poland end Germany. The surrenderd in Germany with the Americans in their back to the Red Army in 1945.
The last piece I found is a list of German casualties in a church book. Their again appears a Willi Grütte, born in 1913, died in 1947 in Muhlberg in an Gefangenenlager (Stalag IV-B was in Muhlberg). Also it mentions that he was a Flaksoldat, anti-aircraft. This function matches with the fieldpost number belonging to an artillerie regiment.
Kremmen (2. Weltkrieg), Landkreis Oberhavel, Brandenburg
The only thing that does not match is the date of death....probably gone wrong in a Russian POW camp? Perhaps a different date was retrieved from eyewitnesses?
However ,I think it's to much of a coincidence for such a rare name...
I would like to hear your opinion about it!
Bryan
Last edited by Bundeswehr; 01-17-2017 at 10:59 AM.
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Very interesting and You have done a lot of work. From where did You got that item? It does not seem a dug out item to me.
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You have a very interesting hobby. I collect trench art and there are also sometimes engravings with the owners name, it will be great to find out who was the owner.
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Very impressive research - thank you.
Philip
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Well done, that's a very interesting piece of research. It certainly brings an artifact to life when you can link it to a man. Being a rare name, you may be on the right trail.
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