HJ / DJ Collection - Possible Acquisition

[rbminis]

Thanks for doing the digging to find this info Kirk!
Well, I've said it before, you learn something here every time.
Ralph.

[Rossi]

Thanks for doing the digging to find this info Kirk!
Well, I've said it before, you learn something here every time.
Ralph.

I am fairly certain on this but open to Wim or others as well as I know just enough on RZM tags but not enough always. Got to read more books on the topic

[Wilhelm Saris]

Hey Ralph, I was able to dig into an old thread from FB and the gang from way back. The tag is shown in this image from the thread and looks like it was for the earlier RZM like the one in the black wool DJ side cap I posted unless I am mistaken.

It is an early DJ cap in my opinion and the tag (if I think this is what the photo
says) is the early type.
According to the official early 1934 regulations: the top is held together with
three buttons, and there are press-buttons in the top for each flap (der Deckel
ist mit drei Druckknöpfen zusammengehalten, ebenso werden die Klappen zu
beiden Seiten mit je einem Druckknopf festgehalten).

[Rossi]

It is an early DJ cap in my opinion and the tag (if I think this is what the photo
says) is the early type.
Often these caps do have press-buttons in the top for the flap.

Thanks Wim for your knowledge and taking a moment to opine. Would this example I found be a later model then with the regulation tag?

[Wilhelm Saris]

what you show is the regulation tag, but if it is an original one
I cannot say.
The cap is being made by:
A 2/1249 Rudolf Linder, 02-29-36 04-22-39
Inh. Eugen Linder,
Haan b. Düsseldorf
In 1939 the name for the concern changed somewhat.
The concern got its permission in February 1936, so the
cap must have been made then or a later date!

[Rossi]

what you show is the regulation tag, but if it is an original one
I cannot say.
The cap is being made by:
A 2/1249 Rudolf Linder, 02-29-36 04-22-39
Inh. Eugen Linder,
Haan b. Düsseldorf
In 1939 the name for the concern changed somewhat.
The concern got its permission in February 1936, so the
cap must have been made then or a later date!

that was one sold on Ruptured Duck a few years back

[Rossi]

what you show is the regulation tag, but if it is an original one
I cannot say.
The cap is being made by:
A 2/1249 Rudolf Linder, 02-29-36 04-22-39
Inh. Eugen Linder,
Haan b. Düsseldorf
In 1939 the name for the concern changed somewhat.
The concern got its permission in February 1936, so the
cap must have been made then or a later date!

Hey Wim, I have seen this RZM tag online below. It has been on a few bread bags I have come across in prior years. Would it have been proper or within regulations for the HJ to use it without the diamond. I have seen dealers and people list this RZM tag shown on bags as SS type / Political / HJ. Just wondering your thoughts on it.

[Wilhelm Saris]

About Brotbeutel, I would not know as I am not interested in equipment.

About the DJ cap: I checked 1936 information en the press-buttons were
mentioned to be there: three on top, and on each side one for the flap.

See now about Brotbeutel: the tag for SA should have the SA symbol,
PO the eagle and HJ the diamond, the tag for HJ says: Brotbeutel nach
Vorschrift der Reichs-Jugend-Führung. This is 1936. If these tags were
still in use in later years I do not know.
Can't find it for later years.

[Rossi]

Seller and I were not able to get together on this deal. Thanks for those who gave their opinions and knowledge. Cheers! Rossi

[MAP]

Too bad Rossi. I think you were more than fair.