Kriegsmarine binoculars 7 X 50 Flak (Kuste)

[HistoryMan]

That picture just proves my point !

Take a closer look.....

In fact, the more I look at them, the whole of the markings look dodgy and poor and suspect

[Wagriff]

If you look at more than a couple of binocular markings, you'll see many small variations. But, I have no dog in this fight, so to speak, so if you're not comfortable with them, by all means return them. Problem solved.

[HistoryMan]

If you look at more than a couple of binocular markings, you'll see many small variations. But, I have no dog in this fight, so to speak, so if you're not comfortable with them, by all means return them. Problem solved.

No fight here sorry. Just my opinion,but all the markings on these look poor. Need to look closely. Not on a phone or anything

Maybe ask JERSEY34 Damien to look at them, I am sure he has at least 50 pairs to compare with

[Happy Harry]

This is very interesting as I have looked a few more samples now and they all appear to be slightly different. Were they all individually hand engraved or stamped? Also the markings around the eye pieces look exactly the same standard and colour.

[HistoryMan]

This is very interesting as I have looked a few more samples now and they all appear to be slightly different. Were they all individually hand engraved or stamped? Also the markings around the eye pieces look exactly the same standard and colour.

Harry
Drop Damien a PM, JERSEY34, I am certain he will have a definitive opinion, I am sure he must have many sets in his collection to compare

Cheers

[Happy Harry]

OK cheers.

[Flak bunker]

Hi I have been collecting ww2 german optics for the past 25 years or more,your binos are perfectly good, and should be coated,to answer a couple of questions,zeiss only had two eagle variants,they for some reason brought out a smaller one for a short period of time in 1944 and only on a certain bino,there have been some fake engravings turning up on binos but luckily so far the fakers seem to not understand that 1 not all german binos had eagles and 2 there is a direct correlation between the numbers,model,and serial numbers, i.e. a 1944 blc marked, naval coated 7x50 would not have had an eagle,so if it does its a fake engraving.the case as well on your photo is original and made for this model,however looking at the eye cups,they maybe a replacement as most of these early models had brown Bakelite not black,although a few did.

[Happy Harry]

Thanks for your input guys it is much appreciated. Yes the eye cups appear to have one black and one brown. I assumed the brown one was a replacement but it must be the other way round.

[HistoryMan]

Hi I have been collecting ww2 german optics for the past 25 years or more,your binos are perfectly good, and should be coated,to answer a couple of questions,zeiss only had two eagle variants,they for some reason brought out a smaller one for a short period of time in 1944 and only on a certain bino,there have been some fake engravings turning up on binos but luckily so far the fakers seem to not understand that 1 not all german binos had eagles and 2 there is a direct correlation between the numbers,model,and serial numbers, i.e. a 1944 blc marked, naval coated 7x50 would not have had an eagle,so if it does its a fake engraving.the case as well on your photo is original and made for this model,however looking at the eye cups,they maybe a replacement as most of these early models had brown Bakelite not black,although a few did.

Be good to see some of your examples to compare the engraving. To my eyes, the engraving is sloppy and I cant find a similar example on the net

Cheers

[Happy Harry]

I would have thought that unlike say a printed Q helmet decal that will all be exactly the same, these eagles will be very similar but not exactly the same as they were all hand engraved by individuals. They will of course be a certain style. Here are a few Ziess style ones that I found on the web that all appear very slightly different to me.