Pony Fur pack markings?

**Franz20** · 01-14-2014, 07:43 AM

I once again need a bit of assistance in identifying something.

I received this in a trade, but I'd like to know more about the clips used on this piece. I'd also be interested to know more about the markings on the back.

(Faintly below the number "55" a RAB or RAR stamp faintly remains).

I'm looking forward to learning more about this!

Thanks!

Frank

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-14-2014 07:43 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**AMTG** · 01-14-2014, 07:54 AM

Well it has a name and the other writing is a date...2 May 1945....war ends or ended...I'm curious about the use of a sig rune as a "S" in his name though.....maybe it belonged to this soldier and he marked it for posterity

Could that be RAD written with his name....maybe he belonged to the Reichs Arbeitdienst

Speculation for the sig rune could be just an over keen and proud serviceman

**MP44tom** · 01-14-2014, 03:47 PM

Hi

Very interesting

The clips used on this Tornister normally are seen on the 18 Liter Water Containers

You can see the clips ar the end of the leather straps

Tom

**Neil Hever** · 01-14-2014, 10:45 PM

BTW, NOT pony fur. Cow hide. NH

**Franz20** · 01-15-2014, 08:05 AM

Ah, thank you for the correction. What would one value something like this at?

Thanks!

**AMTG** · 01-15-2014, 08:09 AM

Are they similar to the clips on the 1 later water bottles? The cross hatch marking looks similar to ones on those canteens

**JPhilip** · 01-15-2014, 10:48 AM

Hello,
It is a RAD Tornister patterned after the WWII Tornister.
IMO the Sig rune could refer to the Hitlerjugend as a reminder of the owner's time of service in this organisation before joining the RAD.
Thanks

**Neil Hever** · 01-15-2014, 05:40 PM

Tornister packs sell for about 75 to 125 US dollars. More for mint examples. It depends on the condition, presence of straps and perhaps markings. I'm not sure where your example lands but I would guess in the range just described. NH

**Feuerbach** · 01-15-2014, 05:57 PM

by Neil Hever

BTW, NOT pony fur. Cow hide. NH

Both were used I believe.
The Affe came in different models, one without these straps that could be hooked to the Y strap, and this model that could be used without the Y straps. The hooks could be connected to the D rings at the bottom of the Affe, or to the loops on the belt. They also cold be hooked to the amo pouches if worn.