Question reg. Entrenching Tools...

[meyle77]

Hello,
show us the rig you're interested in before purchasing it...that's my advice
Thanks

Will do - thanks.
It will be from the guild.

[Datrus]

Apologies on the bad photo but this was at least 2 years ago. The reichswehr shovel should have an iron cross on the front. As you can see on the top left corner of the shovel.
Ryan

But does that count for ALL Reichwehr shovels?

Regards, Lars

[Datrus]

Hello,
show us the rig you're interested in before purchasing it...that's my advice
Thanks

That is always good advice. Also with C G. They sometimes mess up things etc so to speak. However i am a good customer there

Regards, Lars

[Danmark]

So what are these ones?
They DON'T have the collar but they DO have the rivets and the added handle support.
They "look" to be pre-war to me ( or at least made with less quality to them )?
Dan

You would find some like this Lars - surely?

[JPhilip]

Apologies on the bad photo but this was at least 2 years ago. The reichswehr shovel should have an iron cross on the front. As you can see on the top left corner of the shovel.
Ryan

Hello,
Sorry but the shovel that you show here is not Reichswehr....it's a WWII german shovel produced between 1934/35 and 1945.
By the way, it is not an Iron Cross, it' s a Malta Cross...
Thanks

[Voje85]

Hi everyone!

Here is my item It was found in Norway.

[Datrus]

So it's only the war time shovels that are welded then?

Regards, Lars

[JPhilip]

Hello,
voje85 : your shovel looks like a WWI german one...with thin ears folded and riveted.
Datrus : yes only the germans shovels produced between 1934/35 and 1945 are welded, all other ones are riveted (some postwar shovels are also welded but it's not the same type of welding).

All WWI and WWII straight shovels were patterned after the Linnemann brevet, with rivets, ring around the handle and the huge majority with non folded ears. During WWI germany produced a shovel with folded and riveted ears, like the one shown by voje85. Between the dates given above, germany produced shovels that were welded, without ring and with folded ears...i'm only talking about militariy shovels of course, there was still a civilian market then and i presume that the standard gardener small shovel was still riveted....)

The german soldiers used many types of shovels.
Thanks

[Datrus]

Yes we find a wide variety of models on the Eastern Front Thank you JP

Regards, Lars

[JPhilip]

So what are these ones?
They DON'T have the collar but they DO have the rivets and the added handle support.
They "look" to be pre-war to me ( or at least made with less quality to them )?
Dan

You would find some like this Lars - surely?

Hello,
These also look like WWI german shovels....yes they have the simplified ring...
Thanks