I collect, therefore I am.
Nothing in science can explain how consciousness arose from matter.
Unfortunately, the Jewish State of Israel did not exist at the time of the acquisition of these heirlooms and many of the pieces have more Historical significance to the country of the families origin than Israel. Say, for example, the crown jewels of an Austrian Count's family or some such-should they be sent over seas to a foreign country-one that has no legal claim to them? It's a Hellishly complicated problem. One that has, apparently, involved 7 decades of debate and arguing in courts and continues to this very day.
William
"Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."
I'm not going to get into a huff because you don't understand the concept of sarcasm...
The Germans were obliged to pay reparations as dictated by the Potsdam Conference and had no say in the matter as a defeated nation...Due to the success of the Marshall-plan Germany was able to begin reparations, which also included forced labor and industrial machinery...
East Germany didn't accept any responsibility to pay anything...
West Germany took responsibility for the crimes of the regime and continues to make payments to the Sinti/Romani, and other persecuted groups...Sorry we got off topic.
cheers, Glenn
Last edited by bigmacglenn; 07-22-2013 at 06:25 PM.
It's also worth remembering that prior to German re-unification, the building that houses all of these artefacts was in the Pankow district of Eastern Berlin, and was a goverment department of the Deutsche Demokratische Republik, part of the Communist Eastern Bloc, which helps explain the current situation regarding some of the items held therein, as nothing was done for years.
Regards, Ned.
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
Actually German industry for the large part rejected responsibility and compensation for the use of slave labour and forced labour during WWII until the mid to late 1990's when it was forced into doing so by international pressure.
I collect, therefore I am.
Nothing in science can explain how consciousness arose from matter.
That is true, as are the Swiss Banks who have been sitting on Jewish money...
cheers, Glenn
Last edited by bigmacglenn; 07-22-2013 at 06:29 PM.
I prefer the sillier side of this thread, the philosophical discussion will only lead to angst, disharmony and an eventual locking...
Most of these artifacts were taken from persons considered NOT to be or have any part in the country they lived in...the Germans' considered them sub-human Jews definitely not German at the time that is why they were excluded, dispossessed and later exterminated and their property looted/stolen or sold off in forced sales at fire-sale values.
IMO the historical significance if any is entirely Jewish and the State of Israel (which was founded mainly by Holocaust survivors from Europe) are the natural heirs for any "unclaimed" Jewish Holocaust assets. IMHO it is not hellishly complicated but I understand why the current "owners" of looted Jewish property would want it to be.
I collect, therefore I am.
Nothing in science can explain how consciousness arose from matter.
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