Lithgow: You have opened the door to a vast and very interesting topic; why we won and the Germans lost. It's a field that has been plowed time and time again, but it is still interesting because there are always people who believe that had just one or two things been done differently, the outcome might have been entirely different, with the Germans coming out on top--or as near the top as they could with their economy shattered, their cities little more than heaps of smoldering rubble, and their industries virtually non-existent. Of course, those conditions did not exist in Germany until 1944-45, and an early victory, say in 1941 or 42 would created something entirely different. Or would it have? A problem I have with Alternate History is that it's is all founded on hypothetical situations and rarely takes into account how unpredictable man-powered events can be and usually are. I have said this before, and I will say it again now, there is no such thing as linear history in which each cause-and-effect event produces another cause-and-event that produces another until finally the predictable end occurs as if on schedule. Events do not produce a next absolutely predicable event. The problem with Alternate History is that it depends entirely on linear history. I have not read or seen Fatherland, so I have no idea how the author handled Germany's lack of adequate air cover over the invasion, what sort of landing craft did they use and when and where did they develop them, and where did they find the necessary ASW vessels to protect the fleet? In fact, I would not be surprised if the threat from British and French submarines was not even addressed in the scenario. If it was addressed, I would sure like to read what he said about it. When you wrote, "The Allies DID win and for good reasons, some of which were supplied by the Germans themselves," you hit the nail on the head. Dwight
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