Excellent Submarine

[meyerse]

This came with a group of items, given the lack of wear on the nut I suspect it could be one of the many repros.
I can't find this version or anything close, but these are heavily faked. Didn't pay anything for it (I valued the one item I wanted at the total value of the lot) but somebody tell me what I have?

[meyerse]

I can find many copies, but not one that looks like this.....

[Dom]

MTX factory / Московского товарищества художников
In my opinion this is an authentic Submariner Otlichnik .

[meyerse]

MTX factory / Московского товарищества художников
In my opinion this is an authentic Submariner Otlichnik .

Thanks! It does not look like any fake I have seen, Would this be post war (?) if it is an MTX? It looks like it was not used, or not used heavily (there are some marks of use around the edges as if it might have been worn, but not much. The vertical ridges on the sub are like nothing I can find on other badges.
In the lot it came with an authentic pobeda factory submarine commander badge which is what I was after.

[RichieC]

MTX factory / Московского товарищества художников
In my opinion this is an authentic Submariner Otlichnik .

I agree, but postwar made. Still a very nice thing...

[meyerse]

Does this show up in any reference books I can look for or could somebody share a page of the reference?

[meyerse]

More pics

[Dom]

Does this show up in any reference books I can look for or could somebody share a page of the reference?

I can adopt if you want

[meyerse]

Here is the lot that came together.
The sub commander is a Pobeda factory, probably 1970s. I'll keep them together, because if this is a post war excellent submariner badge, then perhaps these were to the same owner who became the sub commander (?) in any case, thanks for all the input.

[Philippe]

Hi,
Screw not native and re-soldering.
Screw-Nut not original - if the original and silver - worth 5 times more expensive than in the original.
the sign badge can be good but I have my doubts.
Regards.