IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
Article about: I have two British Mark IIs acquired separately. One had a page of Hebrew newspaper stuffed in it (this was in Texas!!!) My question: Does the Israeli connection mentioned in the description
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Re: IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
I have two British Mark IIs acquired separately. One had a page of Hebrew newspaper stuffed in it (this was in Texas!!!)
My question: Does the Israeli connection mentioned in the descriptions below make sense? Did the Brits give the Israelis surplus Mark IIs post 1952?
"British desert camouflage Mark II helmet with shell made by Rubery Owen and Co. of Leeds, in 1940, with Size 7 liner marked CCL II 1952. British army surplus helmet reportedly provided to Israeli Army prior to Suez/Sinai War 29 Oct.-6 Nov. 1956. Chinstrap is Mark III issued late in the Second World War. Mark III liner securing bolt is locked with a Simmonds elastic stop nut."
"British desert camouflage Mark II helmet with shell made by Briggs Motor Bodies of Dagenham, and liner marked CCL II 1952. British army surplus helmet reportedly provided to Israeli Army prior to Suez/Sinai War 29 Oct.-6 Nov. 1956. Chinstrap is Mark III issued late in the Second World War. Mark III liner securing bolt is locked with a Simmonds elastic stop nut."
I served with the British Army in the ME in the 1950s. Issued Mark IIIs or IVs but never wore them or painted them.
Any ideas? Canal Zone?
Cheers,
Pat
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Re: IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
As you say, Battle Gear, both sides were using British kit...or American, or knock-offs of one or the other.
Still puzzled by the 1952 date on the British linings of my Mark II helmets. The Brits had pretty much abandoned the Mark II by then although warehouses were full of surplus and Civil Defence stuff.
Funny things happened...I took a Mark 4 Lee Enfield with me on a day-trip to Libya in 1958, although the books will tell you that the army was equipped with 7.62 FNs by then.
My sand-textured helmets are much lighter in color than yours but definitely not white.
Cheers,
PG
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Re: IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
a photo taken during the Sinai War in 1956
they appear to be wearing M1 type helmets and they have UZI sub machine guns and Mauser rifles
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Re: IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
Great thread battle gear ! some rare helmets that are not often if ever discussed...by the way I got the West German M58 you pointed out on E-Bay ! THANKS !
Prost ! Steve.
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Re: IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
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Great thread battle gear ! some rare helmets that are not often if ever discussed...by the way I got the West German M58 you pointed out on E-Bay ! THANKS !
Prost ! Steve.
Im glad you won the helmet that you were looking for at a great price Steve! it looks like it's in nice used condition with original finish
I should have titled this thread Helmets used in the middle east from any country
they also used the West German M58 / M60 here is an example used by Iran from the Iran Iraq war
http://www.webalice.it
Last edited by battle gear; 03-21-2011 at 06:38 PM.
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Re: IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
battle gear, I have only just digested this information, as a good friend of mine who collects nothing but "World Steel Helmets",was round and I was showing him my meagre collection, when he informed of the Iraqi/Iranian connection......fascinating !
Prost ! Steve.
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