Kampfzeit buckle

[ivanjoaquin]

Hello
I have got this "presumed" Kampfzeit buckle, I have good feelings about it, but I know that these buckles are a minefield and your opinions are welcome
Thanks
Iván











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[David North]

Dear Ivan

Indeed, a veritable minefield, however we do not see as many of these full face swastika Kampfzeit buckles as good, bad or indifferent as compared from a few years ago.

I have 2 of these buckles in my collection to include the supposedly definitive D & S marked example and I am still and after all theses years, unsure about both.

The one that you have shown is interesting and I do so like the four corner solder points, as per the few D & S examples known. The D & S examples to my knowledge do not have the central solder points and in addition, they display a different type of catch.

Having said that, this is a Kampfzeit buckle for goodness sake, produced during a period of near chaos and were almost anything was possible. No rules, regulations or RZM!

This is I think a buckle which has to be looked at subjectively and with the heart, rather than with ones head.

Not one for me and on primarily the two points of (1) what I think are faux corner solder spots and (2), black paint showing signs of artificial rather than natural wear.

Regards,

David

[David North]

Dear Iván

Here are images of my "D & S" Kampfzeit that was mentioned.

Sorry that I cannot add anything else to my original post and again, these buckles which are a particular favourite of mine are the Devils Own to identify as whether being manufactured in 1924/1925, or not.

Regards,

David

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[ivanjoaquin]

Dear David
Thank you very much for your always expert opinion and as usual you're right, I know very well your magnificent buckles, I've been studying for a long time in old threads and differ with mine at the points you mentioned, only I have the consolation that may be an artesanal buckle made in a small cottage workshop, the leather tab, stitch, patina, smell... seem to indicate that it is an old buckle, but....
Best regards
Iván

[kirby]

Have you ever come across one of these with the area around the swastika is cutout.. A dealer at the SOS has one price a $1100. To questionable to spend that much. A friend picked up an identical buckle early this year for under $100.

[Ben Evans]

Hi Ivan, I have never had one of these and to be honest dont know much about them

[kirby]

I will have to take some photos at the 15 SOS. He has had the buckle at the last 4-5 shows.

[ivanjoaquin]

Thanks for your help!
Best regards
Iván