Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
Article about: I have recently re discovered stored away a P38 I purchased in the 80's. This is the first time it is seeing the light of day since then. I am hopeful someone could give me the pedigree and
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
the machiening marks are due to higher fead to spead ratio on lath and miller
not unusal even today from piece work presures
the later the years the wors th marks
also in 1944 finish had lost its worth
practicality was the order of the day
esthetics took a back seat
this P38 i think has a lot of hisorical value
the finish is bad i think not from use but from hasty manufacture
i believe the macheining marks make it special
as its not the usual standard
that i believe makes it worth more to a decerning colector
purely becouse it is not perfect
cheers ian
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
sorry i should explane this
fead to speed ratio to thoe who dont know
means the spead of rotation of the part to the 1000 of an inch lateral movement of the cutter or componant
IE 2000 rpm inrelation to 100 thou movement on mild steal should produce a smooth finnish
dependant on diamiter
smaler the diamiter the more rpm the faster the feed
lager the diamiter slower the rpm the slower the feed
its a lot more complicated than that but thats the basics
if the feed is faster than the rpm then you get machening marks just as we see here
this usualy acures becouse some one has speeded up the machine feed wise but has not {didnt know how } to speed up the rpm to compensate
this is done usualy by to high production goeles
cheers ian
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
allso the p38 is a very complicated pistol to manufacture
2 return spings a hamer spring an rod
also a very complicated barrel from an engenearing point ov vew
far to many diferent tooling and machiening involved
thats what mafe brownings designs so good
simple and easy to make
cheers ian
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
funny thing though
just like the browning gp35
with the p38 if you dont clean the barel fead slide and copper residue builds
you will get feed stopages
funny thing like metals wont slide with ease
ie steal slides not well on sleal
as copper want slide on copper
however copper will slide on steal no probs and viceversa
so allways on all pistols and any gun that uses full coppere jacket ammo
if you dant clean the gun
make sure you clean the fead slide
dont allow copper buildup becouse you will get miss feed stopages
ok i know inof now
cheers ian
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
one last thing
i would say the lack of finnish IE blueing has more to do with bad prouction than wear through use becouse the lack of blueing is very consistant all over the pistol usual lack of blue is where it is handled ie the back of the slid edue to cocking and the end of the barrel from handeling
cher again ian
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
Thanks Ian! There is so much to consider. A fellow here in the States offered me $1,200.00 for everything. He thought it in excellent shape while another thought it in 'fair' shape. Odd everyone's perception.
Cheers, Billy
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
i personaly think
becouse its a late war manufacture and made fast ,without care
it is special ,,,,most peapol want perfect examples
i think this is a perfect example for its year
it shows how fast production over ruled quality
i think it is a great example of its ilk
cheers ian
i would be proud to own it
but i cant UK gun rules
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Re: Need Info on 1943 P38, holster & clip
Billy, I just now saw these postings, and if a man in the states offered you $1,200.00 for it, I would talk to him! By the serial number, it is a late 1944 production and with the holster, I think the man is making a good offer! Good luck! Don Liller
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