Old pistol and powder flask

[don_kihotis7]

Hi Steve, check pic #2. It has some markings "PM" and the number 1 a bit lower. I have no idea of the country of origin but i like it
Is there a clue of the age of the other 2 pistols that Kris posted?

[stuka f]

I didn't check them properly on any marks yet! I had other toys that needed my attention!! ;-)
Just noticed the second has a Liége marking!
To me they are about the (previous!)turn of the century.
cheers
|<ris

[Major Tom]

What you have is a single shot 1830's model derringer pocket pistol and stinkpotpete is correct, the flask is for holding small lead ball, there would have been a small powder horn that might have accompanied it and it is a caplock that takes a no. 14 copper cap maybe?, some originals would've had a pointy curved handle to it some had the shape yours has. They sell here in the states for about $150-$250 USD in good shootable condition

[Walkwolf]

Hi Chris. These were cheap and rather rough as you can see. To load, you
unscrewed the barrel, poured your measure of powder and seated the
ball in the threaded section or chamber in front of the hammer.
When the barrel was screwed back on, this gave a reasonably
tight seal so the gas pressure would not escape
around the ball.

As for Kris', about the time that center-fire cartridges became widespread
or just before, these pin-fires were a sort of failed attempt at a practical
revolver - they weren't in use for long. I'm guessing late 1870's
or 1880's. I used to own each kind for a while.

Below is one I still have. It's American, around three inches long,
with 'Allens Patent' stamped on the hammer.........

[Major Tom]

These where meant for personal defense or just killing someone in the back of the head for taking your money after playing Poker lol!! they only measure around 3 to 5 inches total length. Usually carried buy women cause they where small 25 to 40 grain of powder

[stuka f]

Here is a better pic, where you can see missing parts, marks and size.

[Major Tom]

you have a different pistol all together, he has a single shot derringer pistol

Here is a better pic, where you can see missing parts, marks and size.

[Walkwolf]

One other point - Kris' type - which are both of small caliber - are known
as a 'bicycle revolver' or 'Velo-Dog'. Cyclists would carry them
to ward off attacking dogs.........

[Major Tom]

Didn't know that. That's really interesting history.

One other point - Kris' type - which are both of small caliber - are known
as a 'bicycle revolver' or 'Velo-Dog'. Cyclists would carry them
to ward off attacking dogs.........

[Walkwolf]

If you noticed, both triggers fold up so as not to snag
in a pocket or clothing.........