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Gwar
I have many pieces I have bought and was "Burned" or given for that matter that were spurious..
It doesn't retract from the "Knowledge" I have gained... Especially on this forum..
I had a collection as big as a trash heap in the 80's only to be stolen... Did I know what actually had in my possesion... Absolutely not.... A helmet was a helmet a badge was a badge Period.... Most of the Mods here if not all have "The Best Knowledge" hands down..... I doubt any, if there are any worthy of their salt can compare to our forum.. That being said .. We all have opinions... Theses guys here have been in the thick and thin for years... I think by now most are the best in thier field... And for "Free".... Enjoy...Gwar
Not for nothing, but between then fakers and their humped up items and the guys slamming legitimate pieces as armchair quarterbacks this hobby is getting to be a real nightmare. I understand all of this and I understand what a moderator does and his knowledge in general will be more established than others, but not always. So, look at the key and think. No dumb ass crook is going to do this, again in hand would be nice but there is no way so low life made this key and the only possible way is adding the iron to the shaft, but the iron is too good.
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11-10-2013 05:35 AM
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Research... Homework, To state a point... Moderator Ben Evans posted a buckle as legit....
The other forum literally raked him over the coal...To his benefit David North rallied...
Gents put it like this... Can you tell my why it is a "Fake" ??? The Earth was totally flat one time...
If you went too far over the Ocean you would fall off the the earth. Absurd... Knowledge...
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youthcollector1
As many have stated before, the burden of prove is not on the one saying fake, but rather the one who says it's real. I can not proved period documentation saying this is fake, but you can proved period proof it is real.
Calm down by the way, you are way too defensive.
And you need to stop quoting me and telling me about this key, because I dont think you know what your talking about.
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ajax3985
And you need to stop quoting me and telling me about this key, because I dont think you know what your talking about.
Ok... and you do? Provide anything; a picture, document, another example, something that even hints this is from the tr period and then I'll gladly admit it's period.
There are so many fantasy items out there like this one must be cautious when using the word original.
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youthcollector1
Ok... and you do? Provide anything; a picture, document, another example, and then I'll gladly admit it's period.
There are so many fantasy items out there like this one must be cautious when using the word original.
Your just trying to save face because you shot off on the thing and you don't know. You post me everything you can place in the 3rd Reich with 100% fact or provenance, it does not work that way. I see the key, I would like to see the key closer but based on the photos I know that is a real key that worked a real lock, I know how it was made, I know why it was made this way and why it looks and appears as it does. That is all I need to know, Ill buy that right now. Problem is its a key, without the door its a novelty. It needs a closer look.
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Everybody liked this too on the merit of "it looking well produced" until it was proven fake. Hints my reservation.
https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/art-d...-eagle-359022/
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ajax3985
Your just trying to save face because you shot off on the thing and you don't know. You post me everything you can place in the 3rd Reich with 100% fact or provenance, it does not work that way. I see the key, I would like to see the key closer but based on the photos I know that is a real key that worked a real lock, I know how it was made, I know why it was made this way and why it looks and appears as it does. That is all I need to know, Ill buy that right now. Problem is its a key, without the door its a novelty. It needs a closer look.
How you spend your money is your priority and what's none of my business. I'm done arguing about this. Buy it and see if you can ever resell it based only on your opinion that it is a authentic artifact of the Third Reich.
I will not become a sheep and follow the herd. This is my opinion, and just like you're entitledto yours, I'm entitled to mine.
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youthcollector1
Yeah, I saw those go up. 100% fake, bases construction, everything. Sure, I did not comment because I see it all the time and bored with it. It got picked of by a guy pretty quick and that saved me the trouble of having to comment. No brainer's there, this is not the same item and the fact that they were bad does not mean you open fire on this piece.
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ajax3985....Dude chill....We are supposed to be working together... Not devisive...
I respect your opinion as well as the others... Let's be condusive and find a commom ground or basis of thought..Gwar
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Alright, I need a break anyway and will have this looked at.
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