China Cup and Saucer

[HistoryMan]

HI

Do you think these look good ? I have completed some research and have a feeling they are fakes ?

Cheers

[Jerry B]

Not sure on the SS as others will have a better idea and might disagree with me, but the other looks fine.

[HistoryMan]

Thanks, i found this known example of the cup on the internet, the markings are slightly different ?

Cheers

[Jerry B]

Thanks, i found this known example of the cup on the internet, the markings are slightly different ?

Cheers

Only the SS types are being faked as far as I am aware, the others are so common it is not worth it YET.

The makers mark changes so often it is not really a surprise that it varies on the two you looked at. The luft plate I own is different again. Check the link below.

Rosenthal China Date Marks | Collect Rosenthal

[HistoryMan]

Only the SS types are being faked as far as I am aware, the others are so common it is not worth it YET.

The makers mark changes so often it is not really a surprise that it varies on the two you looked at. The luft plate I own is different again. Check the link below.

Rosenthal China Date Marks | Collect Rosenthal

Thanks Jerry, I have checked that link but none match this one, they all have a dot or a dash incorporated into the design which this one does not seem to have ??

Cheers

[Jerry B]

Thanks Jerry, I have checked that link but none match this one, they all have a dot or a dash incorporated into the design which this one does not seem to have ??

Cheers

The thread starter has a dash between SELB and Germany!?

Is that what you mean?

[HistoryMan]

Hi Jerry

No, they all have the dash between SELB and Germany, SELB-Germany, all the other's have addition dots and dash's in different locations , i assume it may be a date mark, as well as having the date stamped ?

[HistoryMan]

This is the closest match to the one on the cup i posted but it has a dot above the " e " in Germany, do you see what i mean ??

Cheers

[HistoryMan]

This one has a dot above the crown ? do you see what i mean ?

Cheers

[Jerry B]

This is the closest match to the one on the cup i posted but it has a dot above the " e " in Germany, do you see what i mean ??

Cheers

I do, but firstly check the marks for 1919-35 and the one mext to it and neither of them have the dot as far as I can see.

And secondly, I think you are being too paranoid.

Pottery backstamps are often done by transfer as in this case and expecting them to be text book is a mistake, they are not that accurate and are often missing parts if a transfer and misstamped if a stamp.

I would not be concerned about the cup and saucer.

Here is my 100% period original Luft bowl, notice it has no dot etc....