Mit uns plaque

**JERSEY 34** · 05-18-2012, 06:38 PM

I have just borrowed this plaque from a friend and was hoping someone here might know a bit about it. I am not sure if these items were ever reproduced, but if possible it would be nicr to know if this is an original example or not. Any info as usual would be much appreciated.
D.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 05-18-2012 06:38 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**big ned** · 05-18-2012, 07:25 PM

There was one the same at Hermann Historica in 2006; I can't find any copies of this sign after a quick search, so it may be good.

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Regards, Ned.

**WarCollector2019** · 05-18-2012, 07:35 PM

There is also one for sale here (at the bottom of the page): Military Antiques
Thanks, Glen.

**JERSEY 34** · 05-18-2012, 07:44 PM

Hi Glen,
Blimey £385, thats asking a lot!!!
D

**WarCollector2019** · 05-18-2012, 08:03 PM

But you see, unlike awards and decorations where you can assign a price to an item because they are relatively common, so to speak, such as you could say that the average price for an unmarked EK2 is around £60 because you can compare prices with numerous dealers sites. For miscellaneous items like these it is hard to put a value on them because they are not so seldom seen as other TR items and the dealer puts a figure on it based on what he paid for it and what he thinks it may be worth.
Thanks, Glen.

**Gast** · 05-18-2012, 08:22 PM

„Mit uns zieht die neue Zeit“ is a socialist Song of the 20th (original from the labour movement from 1915) until now after the revolutionary developments in Europe, at the end of ww1. Of the other hand it reflects continuity as the colours of Imperial Germany black white and red are shown and the motto on the German buckles since about 1866 shows God with us - Gott mit uns. In that sense it shows both - the revolutionary element and the reflects as well the element and the desire of the continuality and stability of the German society. It is therefore a good example of the successful Nazi propaganda in the late 20th and the early 30th of the last century.
It's indeed a very nice piece of history. I hope you can keep it.
Gary

**Walkwolf** · 05-18-2012, 11:45 PM

I've seen a photo of one of these in an old British publication
from the 1970's - It is called 'Heraldry Of War' with a
bright yellow cover.

This is a rather small plaque, and I wouldn't have thought
it could be worth anywhere near 385 BP.........!

**Gast** · 05-19-2012, 12:18 AM

What do you mean, Wolkwolfr?
Please, could you post hier that link with the bright yellow cover 'Heraldry Of War" that you mean??? I have a funny feeling we are in the differend threads, aren't we?
Thanks in advance. Looking forward to your reply!
Gary
This is a nice piece of history. Just the same how big or small it is. ...

**big ned** · 05-19-2012, 12:52 AM

Calm down Grasshopper, Steve is only voicing an opinion on the value of the item, not it's actual originality, that much is understood. As for 'the Heraldry of War', there is no link, it's a memory....Not different threads old boy, just a misunderstanding on your part to what was being opined.

**Gast** · 05-19-2012, 01:06 AM

by Glennyboy619

But you see, unlike awards and decorations where you can assign a price to an item because they are relatively common, so to speak, such as you could say that the average price for an unmarked EK2 is around £60 because you can compare prices with numerous dealers sites. For miscellaneous items like these it is hard to put a value on them because they are not so seldom seen as other TR items and the dealer puts a figure on it based on what he paid for it and what he thinks it may be worth.
Thanks, Glen.

Hi Glen,

it would be really nice to hear you say something about the historical significance of this item, please? It would be very interesting indeed. Looking forward to your reply.
Thank you very much in advance.
Gary