Waffen-SS Camouflage in period photos

**reneblacky** · 10-14-2018, 03:00 AM

Spose I'll throw this one in.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 10-14-2018 03:00 AM

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**reneblacky** · 10-14-2018, 03:20 AM

Something not right here!?!

**Anderson** · 10-14-2018, 09:06 AM

Rene, it's called Pea Dot envy. Or something like that.

**HPL2008** · 10-14-2018, 09:25 AM

A Heer officer wearing SS camo. It sometimes happened; Adelbert Schulz comes to mind:

Adelbert Schulz - Wikipedia

**Paul D** · 10-14-2018, 12:06 PM

by HPL2008

A Heer officer wearing SS camo. It sometimes happened; Adelbert Schulz comes to mind:

Adelbert Schulz - Wikipedia

As Andreas has said this wasn't uncommon .

**Paul D** · 10-14-2018, 12:08 PM

by Anderson

Because the photo is an old known published one where the guy in camo is identified as a sniper. But it's just as likely to be a training exercise pre D-Day.

I know that i first saw the photo many years but who identified him as a sniper all those years ago when it was first published ?

**Kohima** · 10-14-2018, 10:41 PM

Isn’t that an SS Adler on his chest?
The cap insignia seems to be Army ...

**Kohima** · 10-16-2018, 08:47 AM

Actually, it looks like the Adler on the cap is also SS, as on the tunic...

**reneblacky** · 10-16-2018, 08:51 AM

by Kohima

Actually, it looks like the Adler on the cap is also SS, as on the tunic...

Does look to be an arrow point wing hey..

**Anderson** · 11-26-2018, 11:56 AM

Leibermuster made a brief appearance in 1945 and was planned to be put into widespread use, but the war ended before that occurred. Usually associated with the SS, it was in fact designed to be used by all branches of the military and photos exist of the pattern being used by Wehrmacht troops.
Leibermuster camo was printed onto both HBT and cotton drill material and typically made into the M44 tunic and trousers. There are no known M43 caps made from Leibermuster, just like no M43 caps were made from Erbsentarn (44 dot).

Here's an example that may be authentic;

And an example with better provenance in BW museum, Koblenz, Germany

But you can't keep a good camo pattern down and in 1955 the Bundeswehr trialed a version of Leibermuster for the European Army Project (EVG), example jacket below;

The BW abandoned the pattern in 1957 and it was promptly borrowed by the Swiss for their TAZ57 camouflage uniform, an example of the Swiss jacket is above. Quite similar to the BW colours, but possibly brighter tones than the original Leibermuster or have all the surviving WW2 examples faded?