Wow! That thing is huge. Usually we don't buy stories but in this case I think we can make an exception. Not a common item and in terrific condition. A propellant charge that big is for a monstrous cannon or naval cannon. Looking forward to more photos so we can nail down the designation. NH
12-07-2014 03:12 PM
Well, I'm not sure if we'll be much smarter after the pics...here they are - not great, but good enough to see:
Ok, here is the WaA eagle ink-stamp - maybe "982" numbers (?)
About 2 cm to the right of the ink-stamp is the number "44" - both of these are on the very bottom part of the tube (but still on its' side)
Here is the first of 3 parts of the main text - first word: "...kart 3" (can't read the first 2 letters, maybe a "V" or "W" is the first (?)
Second word: "...17cmK" (again, can't see the first 2 letters)
Third word: "Mrsla..." (???)
Smaller text right under the main text, all clear to see, sort of:
Slightly larger size text as the smaller text under the main text - but this one is on the other side of the tube, all clear to see:
The number "26" at the under-part of both closing latches:
View of the bottom of the tube:
Side view - where the main text is:
View of the top of the tube (with handle in 'up' and 'down' position:
View of the inside - 0% rust, like new - no markings:
View of the back part of the lid - around 1cm thick carton for damping and black rubber (still soft) ring around is still present:
Another shot next to 2 of my "251s" wheels - for size compare:
The old man was def. wasn't a BS artist, I can tell these things right away...he said; he'll keep the helmet for his grandson, and already sold the ammo boxes...and thankfully sold this baby to me!
Last edited by Fabe; 12-08-2014 at 01:26 AM.
Fabe, I always like it when the item you receive is better than you expected - an added bonus! I bought a WW1 shell casing piece of 'trench art' and was expecting a regular size casing. When a huge shell casing turns up I was suitably impressed. I will get around to posting on the relevant forum later.
ok, the main text is or almost (I don't see "18" on mine):
"17cm K. 18.i. Mrs. Laf." = 17cm Kanone 18 in Mörserlafette = 17cm Mod. 18 Cannon on self propelled mortar
from another thread:
Ammo boxes and belts
Nouvelle page 0
17 cm K.i.Mrs.Laf
on the right - for propellant charges (20 kg):
very nice! does your tube also has a "WaA" inkstamp (if yes, could you tell us the number please) and a date near the bottom of the tube?
Unfortunately not. Judging by the "gelb" color, I can only estimate its production after mid '43.
Apparently, the photo I posted of that gigantic cannon was the correct type. I'm not sure why it is referred to as a mortar lafette since the cannon had a dual recoil mechanism. Perhaps it is just a reference to the stability of the platform and the ability of it to mimic the accuracy of a mortar. NH
here is the only photo that I could find - of the ammo tubes in WW2 field use: