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    I don't know if the correct name for this drum is Army Regimental Drum or just plain Army Drum. It belonged to my cousin, Friedrich Gtze who said he got it from the mother of a friend who was the original owner. The incredible thing is that this drum spent the war in Berlin-Spandau and not only escaped destruction during the bombing but didn't get "liberated" by the Russians or the British after the war. Fred died in 1992 and I got the drum.
    Other than show-and-tell, my reason for posting this is to see if any of you know the value of one of these.
    The drum maker was Johs. Link; manufactured in Weissenfels; year manufactured 1937; and the serial # is 1259. It seems to be all there, and the skin is certainly tight and resonet. Dwight
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    I once owned a very similar piece Dwight, but mine was a Deutsches Jugend version, so the triangles were black. The examples with red triangles are HJ I believe, but this one has both. Nice that it has the adler hanging attachment.

    Thanks for showing this one.

    Grsse,

    Carl
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    Not an item often seen. Very nice.

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    Very good example and to see it with the hangar and the sticks is very uncommon, and with family history Dwight, a hard one to top IMO.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Thanks for the comments, guys. Carl: Fred told me that his friend had been in the Hitler Youth, so it's possible that he banged on this one when he was in HJ. I don't recall the friend's name, but he was with Fred in Army Group South in 1942-45. But he didn't get back, so the mother gave Fred the drum after the war. The piece of information about the triangles is interesting; do you have any ideas about why this one has both red and black? Any idea as to the value? Dwight

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    Dwight, I can't help you on value I'm afraid, but I do remember doing a little research when I had mine a while back. The HJ/DJ drums had guidelines regarding the size, but no exact rules about pattern as far as I am aware. However, black and white paint will indicate DJ, and red/white HJ. Many were manufactured privately too if I recall correctly.

    Anyway, regarding your example...possibly a HJ piece? Somebody on here will be able to say for certain.

    I found a couple of images of the example I owned. Not as fine as your piece, but genuine nonetheless. As the maker's plate says, it was produced in Graslitz, Bhmen. The manufacturer specialised in brass instruments.

    Regards,

    Carl
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    A few more images...

    Just found this attachment of a red/blk/wht marked drum on the Internet. It was advertised as a "Hitler Youth Drum" by a UK based auction house. Guide price around 200GBP, but didn't sell.

    Also shown are images of a DJ boy with his blk/wht marked drum. It is clearly blk/wht not red, as the other attachment shows the stark difference between black and red when present in b/w photographs.

    Regards,

    Carl


    p.s. "For viewers watching on a black and white television, Liverpool are the team playing in red..."
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    I learned a few bits of information regarding this type of drum, which I will share with all of you. It's called a Flachtrommel, literally flat drum. The manufacturer, Johannes Link opened his drum factory in Weissenfels in 1847. By 1930, his company, by then renamed SONOR, was producing fully half of all the percussion instruments sold in Germany. There is a SONOR Museum dedicated to the company's history and one of the drums on display is this 1941 model that appears to be a steel drum, whereas mine is brass. But the color schem on the museum drum is the same as on mine. Unfortunately, there is no explanation as to what organization used the drum. Anyway, here is the photo. Dwight

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    Interesting information Dwight, thanks for that. Sonor are still a popular drum manufacturer in modern times, especially with rock bands.

    Regards,

    Carl
    Experienced guide and published author leading detailed study trips to the former KZ sites of Nazi Germany. Contact for further details.

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