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Article about: Hi There!! I got lucky on E Bay and I got this gas mask with matching numbers, I always wanted one but I could never get one for a decent price.

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    Hi There!!
    I got lucky on E Bay and I got this gas mask with matching numbers, I always wanted one but I could never get one for a decent price.
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    Hi Luis,

    How much was it?

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    Quote by Nifartachi View Post
    Hi Luis,

    How much was it?
    I paid $76.00

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    Hi Luis, if you don't already know, I can tell you what unit is it from

    10. Kompanie Luftnachrichten-Regiment 42

    Great to have one which is named and unit marked.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Hi Luis, if you don't already know, I can tell you what unit is it from

    10. Kompanie Luftnachrichten-Regiment 42

    Great to have one which is named and unit marked.

    Cheers, Ade.
    Adrian,
    Thanks a lot is really nice to find the history behind all these artifacts.

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    Some more info for you on the unit:

    Luftnachrichten-Regiment 42

    Kommandeure:

    * Oberst Alfred Boner, 1.8.42 - 15.9.43

    Formed 1.8.42 in Zeist with:

    * Stab/Ln.Rgt.42 in Zeist with:
    o Stab I./Ln.Rgt.42 (Betrieb) in Zeist with:
    + 1./Ln.Rgt.42 from 1./Luftnachrichten-Regiment 201
    + 2./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 3./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 4./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + Gerätekolonne I./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    o Stab II./Ln.Rgt.42 (Eisenbahn-Flugmelde) in Döberitz with:
    + 5./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 6./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 7./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 8./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    o Stab III./Ln.Rgt.42 (Flugmelde) in Ludwigsburg-Ossweil with:
    + 9./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 10./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 11./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 12./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 13./Ln.Rgt.42 new

    6.-8./Ln.Rgt.42 each had one railway train with 22 railroad cars, equipped with 2 Würzburg and 2 Freya radars. The 3 companies used the following cover names: Sumatra I - III (Flugmelde) and Java I - III (Jägerleit). Operated mainly on the eastern front and in the Balkans.

    11. - 13./Ln.Rgt.42 was three schwere/mittlere Flugmelde companies, each operating a radar site in Southern Germany:

    * 11./Ln.Rgt.42 (Stellung "Möwe") at Renningen, near Stuttgart
    * 12./Ln.Rgt.42 (Stellung "Bachstelze") at Gross-Aspern, near Backnang (abandoned before 9.44)
    * 13./Ln.Rgt.42 (Stellung "Eppingen") at Eppingen/Baden

    The regiment was disbanded on 15.9.43:

    Stab/Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab/Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    Stab I./Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab I./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    1./Ln.Rgt.42 became 1./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    2./Ln.Rgt.42 became 2./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    3./Ln.Rgt.42 became 5./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    4./Ln.Rgt.42 became 4./Ln.Abt. Mitte
    Stab II./Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab/Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    5./Ln.Rgt.42 became 1./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    6./Ln.Rgt.42 became 2./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    7./Ln.Rgt.42 became 3./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    8./Ln.Rgt.42 became 4./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21

    Stab III., 10.-15./Ln.Rgt.42 remained until 2.9.44:

    Stab III./Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab I./Ln.Rgt.237
    9./Ln.Rgt.42 became 5./Ln.Abt.201
    10./Ln.Rgt.42 was disbanded
    11./Ln.Rgt.42 became 1./Ln.Rgt.237
    12./Ln.Rgt.42 was disbanded
    13./Ln.Rgt.42 became 3./Ln.Rgt.237

    Service:

    * 8.42 - 9.43 under XII. Fliegerkorps

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Some more info for you on the unit:

    Luftnachrichten-Regiment 42

    Kommandeure:

    * Oberst Alfred Boner, 1.8.42 - 15.9.43

    Formed 1.8.42 in Zeist with:

    * Stab/Ln.Rgt.42 in Zeist with:
    o Stab I./Ln.Rgt.42 (Betrieb) in Zeist with:
    + 1./Ln.Rgt.42 from 1./Luftnachrichten-Regiment 201
    + 2./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 3./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 4./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + Gerätekolonne I./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    o Stab II./Ln.Rgt.42 (Eisenbahn-Flugmelde) in Döberitz with:
    + 5./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 6./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 7./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 8./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    o Stab III./Ln.Rgt.42 (Flugmelde) in Ludwigsburg-Ossweil with:
    + 9./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 10./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 11./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 12./Ln.Rgt.42 new
    + 13./Ln.Rgt.42 new

    6.-8./Ln.Rgt.42 each had one railway train with 22 railroad cars, equipped with 2 Würzburg and 2 Freya radars. The 3 companies used the following cover names: Sumatra I - III (Flugmelde) and Java I - III (Jägerleit). Operated mainly on the eastern front and in the Balkans.

    11. - 13./Ln.Rgt.42 was three schwere/mittlere Flugmelde companies, each operating a radar site in Southern Germany:

    * 11./Ln.Rgt.42 (Stellung "Möwe") at Renningen, near Stuttgart
    * 12./Ln.Rgt.42 (Stellung "Bachstelze") at Gross-Aspern, near Backnang (abandoned before 9.44)
    * 13./Ln.Rgt.42 (Stellung "Eppingen") at Eppingen/Baden

    The regiment was disbanded on 15.9.43:

    Stab/Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab/Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    Stab I./Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab I./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    1./Ln.Rgt.42 became 1./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    2./Ln.Rgt.42 became 2./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    3./Ln.Rgt.42 became 5./Ln.Rgt. beim I. Jagdkorps
    4./Ln.Rgt.42 became 4./Ln.Abt. Mitte
    Stab II./Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab/Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    5./Ln.Rgt.42 became 1./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    6./Ln.Rgt.42 became 2./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    7./Ln.Rgt.42 became 3./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21
    8./Ln.Rgt.42 became 4./Flugmelde-Meß-Abteilung zbV 21

    Stab III., 10.-15./Ln.Rgt.42 remained until 2.9.44:

    Stab III./Ln.Rgt.42 became Stab I./Ln.Rgt.237
    9./Ln.Rgt.42 became 5./Ln.Abt.201
    10./Ln.Rgt.42 was disbanded
    11./Ln.Rgt.42 became 1./Ln.Rgt.237
    12./Ln.Rgt.42 was disbanded
    13./Ln.Rgt.42 became 3./Ln.Rgt.237

    Service:

    * 8.42 - 9.43 under XII. Fliegerkorps
    Adrian thank you very much!! If you dont mind me asking.You got that info from the 225 number painted??
    thanks

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    Hi Luis, no, this info came from what was printed on the paper label you showed here in the cannister lid. I have borrowed and cropped your pic, so see below.

    What you have is:

    The soldiers surname of: Benecke
    His unit Feldpost number: L51846 (Luftwaffe numbers have a "L" prefix)
    His Gas mask size, which is 1.
    His roll number: 225

    The key peice of info is the Feldpost number. I have a database of these. Once you know the unit, it is easy then to research where they fought.

    His roll number of 225 (similar to a US/British serial number but NOT the same thing) really gives no info. This number was stampted on his dog tag too and entered in his paybook. The German Army gave you a number when you joined up. Each unit had a roll book and his name was entered at position number 225 in that book.

    Hope this explains things for you?

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Hi Luis, no, this info came from what was printed on the paper label you showed here in the cannister lid. I have borrowed and cropped your pic, so see below.

    What you have is:

    The soldiers surname of: Benecke
    His unit Feldpost number: L51846 (Luftwaffe numbers have a "L" prefix)
    His Gas mask size, which is 1.
    His roll number: 225

    The key peice of info is the Feldpost number. I have a database of these. Once you know the unit, it is easy then to research where they fought.

    His roll number of 225 (similar to a US/British serial number but NOT the same thing) really gives no info. This number was stampted on his dog tag too and entered in his paybook. The German Army gave you a number when you joined up. Each unit had a roll book and his name was entered at position number 225 in that book.

    Hope this explains things for you?

    Cheers, Ade.
    FANTASTIC!!
    THANKS FOR THE INFO

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    Hello Adrian & Luis,
    In this case i'm afraid the number 225 is not the roll number given to each soldier in his unit. Gasmask sets were not like the vast majority of the other equipments that was issued at the clothing depot. They did belong to the unit, and the number is the issueing number. It means that your set Luis was the 225th issued within the 10. Kompanie of Luftnachrichten-Regiment 42...
    Also...sorry for the bad news, but your carrying strap is postwar Bundeswehr...
    thanks
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