German e-tool...postwar?

[Fabe]

Hi Guys -

question: Is this German e-tool shovel pre or post 1945?
The edges are not flat, has a slight roll-up.
Cheers,
Fabe

[BlackCat1982]

Can't remember the maker but they did produce spaten during WW2 and post war for the BW.

[Fabe]

Can't remember the maker but they did produce spaten during WW2 and post war for the BW.

Yes, they did. However, the ones I saw post-war BW e-tools from this maker, had the folded (flat) ears or no ears at all, longer handles and usually a date under the "man holding the shovel" marking - 1960's dates I saw the most.

[Fabe]

I don't have the item yet, in a few days. It's not from a military dealer, flea market pick-up - and was very inexpensive (even in Easter-European standards).
'Will wait for more opinions of course, and will take better pics when it arrives.

[Fabe]

The shovel arrived this week - to my surprise, it's a smaller sized one (never seen one before) - my guess; it was fireman's or maybe HJ hand shovel...anyways, a very interesting item. I've put an average sized e-tool next to it (same maker) - on the last couple of pics.
Cheers,
Fabe

[Austrian]

Hello,
this entrenching tool was manufactured by Ideal-Spaten (company still exists) in postwar times.
They were sold as camping and car equipment on the civil market.
This smaler design already existed for youth organizations in wartime and i belive the same tooling was used here.
Main indicator for dating is the red colour (respectively blue colour from manufacturer Enders).

Best regards,
Austrian

[PotatoDigger]

I have a similar (also smaller) model which is made like the M1874 entrenching tool, being riveted instead of spot welded, that one also has "IDEAL" below the man holding the shovel.
Luis

[Bavarian]

The War made Entrenchingtools were rivited fith some bolts
The NVA used this type of spade
BR
Bavarian