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Article about: Hey, I am looking to buy this belt and ammo pouches off this guy who claims to have bought them off a ww2 veteran's estate sale. Can any of you guys give me your opinion on real or fake? The

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    Hey, I am looking to buy this belt and ammo pouches off this guy who claims to have bought them off a ww2 veteran's estate sale. Can any of you guys give me your opinion on real or fake?

    The buckle has markings on it says Berlin G, a circle that has RZM, diamond shape with the SS Runes in it.


    thanks:





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    Hi, and welcome to the froum!

    The SS belt buckle is a poor fake. The pouches look good though.

    I would like to see more of the belt please. But I am not liking what I see so far.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Unfortunately Ade is correct the buckle is an awful fake
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Gah, that's disappointing. Thanks for the help guys. Sorry, Ade, that's all the pictures the guy really offered me. Is there anything that stands out in particular that would make it a fake just so I know for future reference.

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    The very white stitching is not a good sign and also the weave of the webbing.

    I have shown a couple of good original web belts on the forum in the past. A search should bring them up.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Tell him you just want the ammo pouches, they are real

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    Hello,
    For sure, new pics showing the belt only would be useful
    Thanks
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    Don't you just love them fake buckles.

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    Yep my money on the belt having been made in India or Pakistan, the quality of the webbing is nowhere near that of the original shuttle loom stuff. Also how flexible is the belt again this is a good give away, genuine webbing wether it be British, German, or American is very tightly woven and therefore a lot stiffer than the cheap stuff from the above mentioned countries. As a lot of repro gear is made on modern looms which knit the webbing using needles, instead of a shuttle loom which locks off the weft and weave with much more force, as the shuttle passes from side to side as the belt is formed.


    Nige.

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    Hello the buckle is one of the Polish made poor copys and as some of the others have put the belt is also a copy but the pouches look ok

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