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Tornister M34 - 31.5 markings ?

Article about: Here is my newly acquired Tornister M34. Worn out but appears to be complete. Shoulder straps are mismatched - different makers. Tornister was made by Sachs and Deisselberg in Hamburg in 193

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    Default Tornister M34 - 31.5 markings ?

    Here is my newly acquired Tornister M34. Worn out but appears to be complete. Shoulder straps are mismatched - different makers. Tornister was made by Sachs and Deisselberg in Hamburg in 1938.
    Nametag Belz and stamped 31.5 (meaning ?).

    There is similar one with the same 31.5 marking and by the same maker for sale at Collector's Guild.

    Any feedback is appreciated.

    Thanks in advance !
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    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

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    Default Re: Tornister M34 - 31.5 markings ?

    Also tested under UV - nothing glows :-)
    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    All looks fine.

    However, you have mistaken a Fraktur letter "P" for a "B". So his surname is "Pelz".

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Hello,
    sorry i can't help you out with the 31,5 marking, but this type of Tornister is not the M34 which had no leather loops on its front flap and had a messkit cloth bag sewn inside....yours is an older type used within the german army during WWI and the Reichswehr years. From 1934, this older type was issued to political and paramilitary organisations. Concerning the carrying leather straps, they're turned inside out...the reinforcing leather part sewn where auxiliary strap is attached shoud be inside, so not visible from outside....Your Tornister is not very common as 99% of haversacks of this type usually had a fur front flap....a nice item even if not stricto sensu military...
    Thanks
    PREUSSENS GLORIA

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    Laurent Huart (1964-2008)

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    Default Re: Tornister M34 - 31.5 markings ?

    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    All looks fine.

    However, you have mistaken a Fraktur letter "P" for a "B". So his surname is "Pelz".

    Cheers, Ade.
    You right my mistake.
    Thanks.

    Regarding those nametags were they army or paramilitary ?
    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

    Polish Militaria 1914-1945 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/124584324789966/
    GTA Militaria - Discussions and Sales - https://www.facebook.com/groups/890720157646923/

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    These name tags were a private purchase option. Many soldiers bought them, as did members of the SA/SS/HJ etc.

    I recall my Mum bought me some similar ones for my first school uniform circa 1966!

    Cheers, Ade.
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    I've seen the exact style sewn onto a feldflasche and a zeltbahn ( in fact I own the zellt - a 1939 issue ) so it certainly puts it in the time frame but who did them for the soldier is something I don't know.
    Dan
    " When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble, give a whistle "

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    Hi Dan, many companies offered these tags for sale. They were popular in several formats: machine woven, like shown here, or the other popular format was screen printed which also gave the soldiers unit details.

    I have seen these advertised in "UM" Magazine.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Thanks Ade - I wonder if many of us have items with these tags sewn on them, might be an interesting idea for a thread .......h'mm.
    " When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble, give a whistle "

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    Nice idea. I have a couple of screen printed tags I can share.

    Cheers, Ade.
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