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Article about: Hello, New to the forum. I may have picked up what I believe to be an original Black Brigade buckle. I have not yet photographed it but I will get a digital shot soon. It is marked Recht en

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    Hello, New to the forum. I may have picked up what I believe to be an original Black Brigade buckle. I have not yet photographed it but I will get a digital shot soon. It is marked Recht en Trouw and has a single sigrune. All I know about the organization is that it was a Dutch NS group in the Flanders area. Any help on authenticating will be appreciated. It does not have any paint finish left and apparently is steel judging by the rust/patina. Neil Hever

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    Hello Neil,

    As far as I know there are only originals from nickel plated steel and zinc to find. Both the variations are two-piece constructions and not die stamped. However, we need images to give a definitive answer.
    BTW the rune must be a Wolfsangel and not a Sigrune.

    This link will maybe help, you can observe both variations on this site:

    http://www.military.be/web/en/index.htm

    Regards,
    Guido
    Last edited by Guido; 02-24-2010 at 12:55 PM. Reason: mistake in information about material!

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    Guido, Many thanks. I believe the type in question is the two piece one posted at the web site you linked. I will take some digital shots and post them - most likely by the weekend. In the time I spent researching the web site you referenced did not show up - so thanks much for the link. Neil

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    Hi Neil, the pics you post will give you your answer
    Ben

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    I too look forward to seeing the pics....Have to mention that this particular buckle is HIGHLY reproduced so one always need be careful. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it's a good one!
    Rob

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    Hi folks, OK, I have decent photo. The buckle is a single piece type that must have had a silver finish at one time. I did not find any manufacture marks. Neil
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    I should have also asked for a picture of the back -that is even more important than a pic of the front in order to authenticate if original or not....sorry 'bout that....any chance at a pic of the back of the buckle?
    Rob

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    Hi folks, Back and side view of this buckle. Neil
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    Drat! Wehrmacht list says it is a fake. I was able to locate an old post on the subject after changing the title around a few times. Unless anyone on this forum says otherwise this item is a fake. The buckle in question looks old and it may be pretty old. I know a lot of this stuff was being manufactured in the 70s when I started collecting. And that stuff is now nearly 40 years old. Glad I did not commit the bucks to this piece. Neil

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    Neil, buckle is indeed a fake
    Ben

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