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Article about: Just thought to bump up a great month of very nice buckles.. My question is this.. ?? Are there many questionable WW 2 buckles that defy explanation as to maker or process of manufacturing ?

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    Just thought to bump up a great month of very nice buckles..
    My question is this.. ?? Are there many questionable WW 2 buckles that defy explanation
    as to maker or process of manufacturing ?? I am sure there are examples to be posted..
    This is not limited to any branch.. Just oddities or unknown types of construction.
    I will start here... Please post as time permits.. G
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    I'd rather be A "RaD Man than a Mad Man "

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    This buckle was listed as a "Combat" RAD buckle.. The aluminum construction would not have been sufficient to last in combat.. Any other plausible ideas'.. G
    I'd rather be A "RaD Man than a Mad Man "

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    Where is said this is a "combat"- buckle, GWAR?

    I cannot find anything about a RAD-buckle, which is "brüniert" (burnished)
    in the RAD-Verordnungsblatt. But that won't say they were not made, but for
    what reason? Some explanation about procecures: maybe it was done to have the
    buckle look as "altsilberfarbig". There were manufacturer's who made them
    accordingly as so-called Dienstschloss, or as Extra-Schloss. To get
    this color-tone, one had to "color" the upper deeper parts and clean them (die
    Vertiefungen des geprägten Koppelschlosses wurden eingefärbt und abgewischt
    ).

    The shown buckle is an "extra" buckle and not a combat buckle. It would not hold
    the weight for a full pack of equipment. To hold anyway some weight these buckles
    were "vergütet", which is hardened (aushärten)!

    The procedure "Brünieren" is done with salt, known as "Brüniersalz", and
    coocked (in a sort of bath). Maybe the salt composition caused it is darker then was
    planned. It was done to avoid shining of the lighter metal. This procedure was also
    done to avoid corrosion!
    Occasionally extra-buckles (but also other buckles) were coated with "Zapon",
    a colorless lacquer, to avoid colouring of the metal (anlaufen der Ware). The
    Zapon cannot have caused the darker color as after years this can only cause a
    very, very light yellowish tone!

    One should note that a so-called Dienstschloss could hold a weight of 100 kg. without
    any remodelling of the box and prongs; an Extraschloss could hold only 40-50 kg.,
    no more even when the material was hardened!!
    Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 02-11-2016 at 02:09 PM.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Hello,

    for me it looks like olive painted !

    In Question , it is wartime made or post war ...............
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Wartime or post-war painted? This is up to GWAR. He can see this in a few seconds with some inventiveness!

    A better photo can help also: back from front is yellow; back from reverse is white!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    You know my thoughts on these G, as we all know original buckle but for me I dont like the paint at all
    Ben

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    Hello,

    another example is this SA buckle . I hold it over 25 years in my colection :

    It's delineate in an older Thomas Reid buckle book
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    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Nice looking buckle

    Quote by yellow12 View Post
    Hello,

    another example is this SA buckle . I hold it over 25 years in my colection :

    It's delineate in an older Thomas Reid buckle book

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    Quote by yellow12 View Post
    Hello,

    another example is this SA buckle . I hold it over 25 years in my colection :

    It's delineate in an older Thomas Reid buckle book
    That buckle is ... Just... WOW !!
    I'd rather be A "RaD Man than a Mad Man "

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    Quote by Ben Evans View Post
    You know my thoughts on these G, as we all know original buckle but for me I dont like the paint at all
    Thanks Ben...
    I'd rather be A "RaD Man than a Mad Man "

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