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03-27-2010 08:17 AM
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Hello Adam
Welcome to the forum.
The first buckle is indeed HJ, however it is die stamped aluminium and not moulded. I have never heard before that this type of HJ is the most desirable! Is the pin shroud distorted or damaged and what is the M4/ number? A perfectly original HJ buckle though.
Have no clue whatsoever about the Wehrmacht-Heer buckle.
The final buckle is a quite original SA buckle. Not the most exciting SA, however still period and representative.
Regards,
David
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Thanks for the help David! If you know anything about WWII German armbands and/or medals, I have posted pics of some that I am considering buying (supposedly out of a veteran's estate) in the appropriate forums and would greatly value your input...you seem to be quite knowledgable.
Best,
Adam
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Adam
It would appear that your other and non belt buckle questions have been answered.
The HJ (M4/28 Paulmann und Crone, Lüdenscheid) is again, an original example.
As far as buying/selling values are concerned, for such a common buckle as the HJ, just trawl through a few of the dealer sites and you will be able to gauge a mean average price.
Regards,
David
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
All the buckles shown are legit. This last one that you have shown appears to be an earlier nickel or steel example. I think these are the more desirable HJ buckles...but that is just my opinion. Looks good! Might go around $75US to $80US I would think.
Good luck and welcome to the wonderful world of German belt buckle collecting! There's nothing like it!!
Rob
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Hi Adam and welcome the the forum, just to add, the Heer buckle is as stated by other quite original and made by G H Osang, have a look in the M4 makers list, you will find other examples in there
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Thanks so much for the help, David, Rob and Ben. Ben, where can I find the M4 maker's list you mention? Is it somewhere on this site? Do any of you know good books on German militaria (for belt buckles and in general) esp. in identifying authentic pieces?
Thanks,
Adam
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Hi Adam, the M4 list is pinned directly above this thread.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: Novice needing help determining authenticity...
Yup....right here: https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/belt-...m4-makers-250/
Also - in regards to books, there are no perfect examples. But - that said: the two best books to own when it comes to buckle collecting are Angolia's Brocades and belt buckles of the Third Rich as well as Nash's 1845-1947 German Belt buckles of the enlisted ranks.
I think those are the two best reference books out there!
Rob
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