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RZM Leather Belt Markings

Article about: Gents Just been talking to Wim Saris ref leather markings and decided to set up a sticky for information. You see on a lot of leather belts the RZM logo with L2/xxx with a number (xxx). From

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    Gents

    Just been talking to Wim Saris ref leather markings and decided to set up a sticky for information. You see on a lot of leather belts the RZM logo with L2/xxx with a number (xxx). From Wim L2 standing for Lederzeugfabriken followed by the manufacturers number. If you know of any of these please note below and I will keep a list of numbers for use to reference.

    L = Leder
    --------------------
    L1 = Lederfabrik
    L2 = Lederzeugfabriken
    L2c= SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L3 = Tornisterfabriken
    L4 = Sattlermeister
    L4g= SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L5 = Riemenfabrik
    L5c =SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L6 = Sturzhelmfabriken
    L7 = Schuhfabriken
    L8 = Schuhmachermeister
    L9 = Lederhandel
    L10= Mützenzutaten

    RZM L2/2433 - A Hermeneit, Hamburg
    RZM L2/330/36 - Josef Lorenz, Bamberg (1936)
    RZM L2/682/39 - Franz X. Esterl, Augsburg (1939)
    RZM L2/954/40 (bmd 41) - Max G. Mueller, Nuernberg. According RZM = Ludwig Schröder, Ansbach (1940)
    RZM L2/682 - Franz X. Esterl, Augusburg (nor tear)
    RZM D.J./ Ausf.2 4/2644/38 - not known before 1938 (1938). Must be mentioned in later RZM-issues
    RZM L4/2644/39 - ibid (1939). Must be mentioned in later RZM-issues
    JV Ausfg 2 1271 (Jungvolk) - J.G. Haufle, Pulsnitz
    L2/2613 - not known before 1938. Must be mentioned in later RZM-issues
    RZM L2/271/36 - Franz Josef Rothe. Braunschwei (1936)
    RZM L2/682 (Xela) - not known, pissibly permission withdrawn before 1938
    RZM L2/2398/36 CROUPON - possibly Erwin Henke, Tuttlingen (Württemberg), (1936)
    RZM L2/600/38 CROUPON - Hans Hofmann senir, Torchheim (Ostfriesland) - (1938)
    RZM Nr 1160 CROUPON - Albin Scholle, Zeitz
    RZM L4/138/36 D.J - Lucie Gelewski, Berlin-Reinickendorf-Ost (1936)
    L1 64 - not listed in 1938 (L1 = Lederfabriken)
    Last edited by Ben Evans; 08-21-2017 at 03:08 PM.
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    all of them are to be found on the DVD as sold by Jo Rivett.
    Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 08-20-2017 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote by Wilhelm Saris View Post
    all of then are to be found on the DVD as sold by Jo Rivett.
    Cheers Wim, many thanks
    Ben

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    Hi Guys -

    Really nice idea for a 'sticky'! I have several belts with examples of these maker stampings. I only know the maker on a couple, so it would be nice to learn some additional makers and expand this thread for future reference.

    Here are the ones I have, most are HJ belts except for the 1st one listed which is a brown SA belt. I also noticed one belt with L4 and not L2, so I searched some and found a list for "L" items which I have included here. Appears L4 is a saddle maker that got into making belts.

    RZM L2/330/36 = Josef Lorenz, Bamberg
    RZM L2/682/39
    RZM L2/954/40 (bmd 41) = Max G. Mueller, Nuernberg
    RZM L2/682
    RZM L4/2644/39
    JV Ausfg 2 1271 (Jungvolk)
    L2/2613
    RZM L2/271/36

    L = Leder
    --------------------
    L1 = Lederfabrik
    L2 = Lederzeugfabriken
    L2c= SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L3 = Tornisterfabriken
    L4 = Sattlermeister
    L4g= SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L5 = Riemenfabrik
    L5c =SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L6 = Sturzhelmfabriken
    L7 = Schuhfabriken
    L8 = Schuhmachermeister
    L9 = Lederhandel
    L10= Mützenzutaten
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    Last edited by Ben Evans; 08-20-2017 at 10:12 AM.

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    I will look for the numbers tomorrow!

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    Quote by weller View Post
    Hi Guys -

    Really nice idea for a 'sticky'! I have several belts with examples of these maker stampings. I only know the maker on a couple, so it would be nice to learn some additional makers and expand this thread for future reference.

    Here are the ones I have, most are HJ belts except for the 1st one listed which is a brown SA belt. I also noticed one belt with L4 and not L2, so I searched some and found a list for "L" items which I have included here. Appears L4 is a saddle maker that got into making belts.

    RZM L2/330/36 = Josef Lorenz, Bamberg
    RZM L2/682/39
    RZM L2/954/40 (bmd 41) = Max G. Mueller, Nuernberg
    RZM L2/682
    RZM L4/2644/39
    JV Ausfg 2 1271 (Jungvolk)
    L2/2613
    RZM L2/271/36

    L = Leder
    --------------------
    L1 = Lederfabrik
    L2 = Lederzeugfabriken
    L2c= SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L3 = Tornisterfabriken
    L4 = Sattlermeister
    L4g= SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L5 = Riemenfabrik
    L5c =SA-Dolfestestelleriemen
    L6 = Sturzhelmfabriken
    L7 = Schuhfabriken
    L8 = Schuhmachermeister
    L9 = Lederhandel
    L10= Mützenzutaten
    Jeff

    Many thanks for that, if you dont mind I have used that info and pinned to the first page for easy information, we can build on this as we collect for info
    Ben

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    Hello,

    do we only looking for RZM codes or also leather maker stamps ?

    That will be a very interesting thread ........
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Hello,

    here a RZM D.J./ Ausf.2 4/2644/38 :

    RZM Leather Belt MarkingsRZM Leather Belt Markings
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    here a RZM L2/600/38 CROUPON

    RZM Leather Belt Markings
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    here a RZM L2/2398/36 CROUPON

    RZM Leather Belt Markings
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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