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    I posted this text also with the earlier thread about this buckle, which is a nice one for the German Gymnastics Association.
    Would love to see a better photograph for the marking, which looks like and L&W, with a sort of roof upon the both letters.
    Can't remember ever having seen this one.

    The marking could stand for Lohmann & Welschehold from Meinerzhagen, as this concern is listed in 1933 (amongst 32 others)
    as a manufacturer for buckles for the organization! It was specifically said in the publication that others, then the ones listed, were officially
    not allowed to produce this type of buckle (Deutsche Sportartikel-Zeitung, nr. 13 from 1933, page 8).

    The note says literally: Es wird ausdrücklich darauf aufmerksam gemacht, dass nur die hier veröffentlichten Hersteller amtlich
    zugelassen und berechtigt sind, die Teile der Gleichtracht der DT herzustellen und abzugeben
    . The note was from the Geschäftsstelle
    (the office for the association).

    This is the list with official buckle manufacturers for the Turnerbund as for 1933:
    Richard Sieper, Lüdenscheid
    Wilhelm Schröder, Lüdenscheid
    Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid
    Max Kamper, Lüdenscheid
    Bernhard Haarmann, Lüdenscheid
    Kallenbach, Meyer & Franke, Luckenwalde
    Friedrich Linden, Lüdenscheid
    F.W. Assmann & Söhne, Lüdenscheid
    Dransfeld & Co, Menden
    Gustav Hüttebräuker, Lüdenscheid
    Linnepe & Schiffer, Lüdenscheid
    Schmahl & Schulz, Wuppertal-Barmen
    Nottebohm & Co, Lüdenscheid
    Ernst Schneider, Lüdenscheid
    G.H. Osang, Dresden-A
    Gebr. Kugel & Fink, Lüdenscheid
    Lohmann & Welschehold, Meinerzhagen
    Friedrich Turck, Lüdenscheid
    Schmale & Co, Lüdenscheid
    Hugo Schneider AG, Leipzig
    Lindemann & Funke, Iserlohn
    Paul & Crone, Lüdenscheid
    H. Andres Junior, Iserlohn
    Heinrich Schwerter, Menden
    Noelle & Heuck, Lüdenscheid
    Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid
    Carl v.d. Crone Co, Lüdenscheid
    vom Hofe & Co, Lüdenscheid
    Vohrmann & Co, Lüdenscheid
    Leistner & Co, Leipzig
    J.D. von Hagen, Iserlohn
    Schmidt & Co AG, Schwelm
    Oscar Süss & Sohn, Leipzig-Oetzsch

    The note from the Geschäftsstelle included further that shops selling dresses and such for the gymnastics
    were only allowed to purchase from manufactuers as listed above. The related shops were given a permission
    (Verkaufszulassung). These permissions were granted through a Turnerbezirk (a district). As always there
    will be manufacturers that have produced the buckle without an official permission!

    Just found out that Berg & Nolte from Lüdenscheid must have gotten their permission in late 1933, or early 1934
    (they advertised that a final decision was made for the buckle for the Deutsche Turnerschaft, according to DT-
    specifications - gesetzlich geschützt) and Giesse & Schmidt from Ruhla theirs in the course of 1934 (maybe even
    not earlier then 1935)!!
    Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 05-31-2013 at 02:04 PM.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    I will try to add new photos.

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    Wim

    Many thanks for that, it is a very interesting and handy list, when I get a bit of time I will go through it and try and work out some of these unknown makers and see if they match
    Ben

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    Ben can we include unmarked private purchase buckles in this thread?...
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    Hi
    I'm having problems identifying the mark on a Heer Ali one piece. Can anyone help please? It's situated under the prong bar in a circle that's 3cm across and one way up looks like an anchor and the other way an ornate letter T. Many thanks for your help. Philw

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    Quote by philw View Post
    Hi
    I'm having problems identifying the mark on a Heer Ali one piece. Can anyone help please? It's situated under the prong bar in a circle that's 3cm across and one way up looks like an anchor and the other way an ornate letter T. Many thanks for your help. Philw
    Create a separate thread and post pictures of it, sounds like a Friedrich Turch buckle to me
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    Hello. Somebody can tell on this brand?Click image for larger version. 

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    Wilhelm Schröder (second from my list).
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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