New Photo Pick-Ups - Please Share

[Bill T]

a few that came with a photo lot.

Some destroyed Russian? planes
Destroyed French cannon
Flak 88 on a Stuttgart train
Some Flak badge in wear photos

[don_kihotis7]

Dudes, are we allowed to post imperial pics as well? Coz this is the German Militaria 1933-1945, Forum.
If so i have many to post as well.
Very Nice photos Bill. It seems that your collection of photos is endless

[Bill T]

I honestly dont "collect" WW1/Imperial/Reichwehr era photos normally....but every once in a while when I see an interesting one, I will scoop it up. I try to keep it 3rd Reich related when i post here.....but if I have a question on something, I think it gets better attention here. (Even tho HPL says ww1 isnt his thing, he still is well versed in it). You must have some questions about a few of em Chris, so I dont think it would be that big of a problem to post a few you would want to learn more about....but you are exactly correct in saying it is supposed to be Third Reich era photos. haha Do I feel a new photos thread coming on into the Imperial section of the forum????? haha

[HPL2008]

HPL, thank you. Im glad I was actually correct this time about the SA mann. haha. thanks for the info on the DRK members. I really like this photo, even though it is not my usual area of interest. It is still nice to see variation every once in a while though. I havent seen an SA physcician before to be honest. Wait, so SA medical personell wore the violet specialists patches for a very short period of time in 33'......was it the same with the violet tabs too?

The insignia for SA medical personnel underwent a whole series of complete and partial revisions. A full description of these (with all their changes to collar patches, brassards, sleeve badges, cap tops, pipings etc.) is way beyond the scope of this thread.

At the specific time period in question here - during which this photograph was taken - the SA's Sanitätsführer [= Medical Officers] wore violet-colored collar patches with rank insignia displayed on both sides by all ranks. (i.e. not just Standartenführer and higher!)
Collar patch piping was violet for ranks up to and including San.-Sturmhauptführer and gold for ranks above that level.

The oval specialist sleeve badges worn on the lower left sleeve were also of violet cloth with gold piping and gold embroidered or metal symbols. These were an Aesculapius rod for physicians [= Ärzte], a Gothic "Z" for dentists [= Zahnärzte] and a Gothic "A" for pharmacists [= Apotheker].
Students who had completed at least four clinical semesters were authorized to wear the same badges as their fully-qualified colleagues.

In 1934, the violet collar patches were discontinued; collar patches for medical SA personnel were now in the same colors and piping as worn by the appropriate SA-Gruppe. Rank and unit affiliation was now displayed in the standard SA style. [Rank on both patches was now only worn by ranks of Standartenführer or higher as for the rest of the SA.]

At the same time, the oval sleeve badges for medical specialists were discontinued as well and replaced by the appropriate specialist symbols worn as metal badges behind the collar patches on both sides of the tunic and brownshirt.

(More changes were to come in the years to follow...)

[Jerry B]

Two luft tropical pics, one of three guys sitting down and having a smoke and the second of a flak crew with Cufftitles, flak badges and a white topped officers visor cap.

Regards,

Jerry

[don_kihotis7]

haha Do I feel a new photos thread coming on into the Imperial section of the forum????? haha

You' ve read my mind man

[don_kihotis7]

Two luft tropical pics, one of three guys sitting down and having a smoke and the second of a flak crew with Cufftitles, flak badges and a white topped officers visor cap.

Regards,

Jerry

Von nice pics. Are they DAK?

[Jerry B]

Von nice pics. Are they DAK?

A difficult question to answer, as some people would consider the DAK to only consist of the original Heer units, but the Germans considered anyone who met the service requirements to be eligible for the Afrikakorps or Luft Afrika cufftitles. Certainly both pictures were taken in Afrika and the blue Afrika cufftitles in the one picture show they would be considered as members of the Afrikakorps, whilst the other was said to be in Libya.

Afrikakorps for sure, but maybe not DAK, if such a distinction is a valid one to make. I tend to use the term tropical, unless I know the precise origin and history of an image.

Thanks,

Jerry

[Bill T]

The insignia for SA medical personnel underwent a whole series of complete and partial revisions. A full description of these (with all their changes to collar patches, brassards, sleeve badges, cap tops, pipings etc.) is way beyond the scope of this thread.

At the specific time period in question here - during which this photograph was taken - the SA's Sanitätsführer [= Medical Officers] wore violet-colored collar patches with rank insignia displayed on both sides by all ranks. (i.e. not just Standartenführer and higher!)
Collar patch piping was violet for ranks up to and including San.-Sturmhauptführer and gold for ranks above that level.

The oval specialist sleeve badges worn on the lower left sleeve were also of violet cloth with gold piping and gold embroidered or metal symbols. These were an Aesculapius rod for physicians [= Ärzte], a Gothic "Z" for dentists [= Zahnärzte] and a Gothic "A" for pharmacists [= Apotheker].
Students who had completed at least four clinical semesters were authorized to wear the same badges as their fully-qualified colleagues.

In 1934, the violet collar patches were discontinued; collar patches for medical SA personnel were now in the same colors and piping as worn by the appropriate SA-Gruppe. Rank and unit affiliation was now displayed in the standard SA style. [Rank on both patches was now only worn by ranks of Standartenführer or higher as for the rest of the SA.]

At the same time, the oval sleeve badges for medical specialists were discontinued as well and replaced by the appropriate specialist symbols worn as metal badges behind the collar patches on both sides of the tunic and brownshirt.

(More changes were to come in the years to follow...)

Thats exactly what i was asking HPL. Thank you. So during 34 a change was made, and medical personnel would wear the same color tabs/piping as the rest of the gruppe. I get it now. I understand that regulations of certain things changed throughout time, and obviously dont expect you to have to explain that to me. haha. But you have covered the basics, which in turn will help alot in understanding fututre photos/uniforms of the SA + SA medical Persons. Good to know the specialists patch was replaced by the metal Aesculapius insignia. Great info

[Bill T]

A difficult question to answer, as some people would consider the DAK to only consist of the original Heer units, but the Germans considered anyone who met the service requirements to be eligible for the Afrikakorps or Luft Afrika cufftitles. Certainly both pictures were taken in Afrika and the blue Afrika cufftitles in the one picture show they would be considered as members of the Afrikakorps, whilst the other was said to be in Libya.

Afrikakorps for sure, but maybe not DAK, if such a distinction is a valid one to make. I tend to use the term tropical, unless I know the precise origin and history of an image.

Thanks,

Jerry

Good call Jerry. I always have a tough time deciphering DAK or not to be honest. I like the second photo with the Summer Luftwaffe Visor and AfrikaKorps cufftitles. Nice veiw of the Flak badges too. The first pic w pith helms is cool too


heres a few more random photos: - Loading Ammo
-SA Mann
- MG with tripod and team