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    Hello

    can you tell me more about this picture ?

    thanks for answers
    cordially
    Didier
    young guys in Luftwaffe, help

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    Due to the worn type of collar-patches it seems these lads are from the
    Luftwaffen-Musikschule, located at Sondershausen.
    They normally did not wear the breast-eagle, but a special arm patch.
    The use of shoulder-straps was not common issue at this school, but
    maybe there was a change during the war. Maybe the number 1 stands
    for the first year of attendance.

    Can you please scan seperately the collar-patches, as well as the shoulder-
    strap with number

    young guys in Luftwaffe, help

    young guys in Luftwaffe, help

    This is what I see with the shown photo:

    young guys in Luftwaffe, help

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    Wilhelm

    Thanks a lot !!!

    I ask for more pictures.....

    Didier

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    Wilhelm

    here is:

    Didier
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    Thanks. The collar-patch is anyway as for the Luftwaffe-Musikschule,
    attendance first year with one Litze. The color is a lighter-blue.
    I have done quite some research about this school. Did not find
    anything about the shoulder-straps with indication. Maybe they
    were introduced in mid-war or so. The piping color matches the
    color for the shoulder-strap and it is indeed a one, so matching
    the Litze.

    I would not know about another institution, using/wearing this!
    Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 04-12-2018 at 10:19 AM.

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    Hello

    many thanks !!

    cordially
    Didier

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    Actually, I think they are students at the Unteroffiziervorschule 1 / Unteroffizierschule (V) 1 at Schloß Hubertusburg.

    According to Schlicht/Angolia, they wore the yellow branch color of the aviation branch and the same system of collar patch lace bars to identify the student's year in the school as described above, as well as the school number "1" as a shoulder strap cypher. (According to the authors, wear of nos. 2 to 4 by the other three schools is plausible, but not verified.) Wear of the breast eagle is also expressly mentioned.

    Between the absence of the special sleeve patch for the music school, the presence of the shoulder strap cypher and breast eagle and the somewhat lighter tone of the collar patches, I am pretty certain that this what we see here.

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    HPL2008: I am getting old, maybe too old for this hobby.
    For you:

    young guys in Luftwaffe, help

    I fully agree with you. I am deeply ashamed as I did not remember an article,
    which was researched by the well-known George Petersen, translated by my
    friend Mathieu de Wolf, who was mentored nota bene by me! Hello Wilhelm,
    wake up!!
    The article was published in the US-magazine Military Advisor. The article was
    about the Unteroffizier-Vorschulen der Luftwaffe. Apparently it was too long ago
    to remember: fall 2003, so about fifteen years ago!!

    Here some photos, included with the article:

    young guys in Luftwaffe, help

    LUVS-1 was at the castle of Hubertusburg at Wermsdorf near Leipzig (May 1, 1941);
    LUS-2 was at Stetten (Stuttgart) - April 1, 1942;
    LUS-3 at the castle of Werneck near Würzburg and Schweinfurt - April 1, 1942;
    LUS-4 at Neu-Sandez (in the Generalgouvernement).
    The collar-patches were yellow; the laces/Litze one for the first year;
    two for the second year; three for for the third year.
    The use of a pip is believed a lad being a Zugführer.

    Sorry Didier, I put you on the wrong side. Now it is better! Thanks to HPL2008

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    Hello all of you

    many thanks for your job !!!!
    Great !!

    cordially
    Didier

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    Hello Didier,

    you may find it interesting to know, that the most left boy on the photo is still alive.
    It is a huge coincidence. I have the same photo here.

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