Due to the worn type of collar-patches it seems these lads are from the
Luftwaffen-Musikschule, located at Sondershausen.
They normally did not wear the breast-eagle, but a special arm patch.
The use of shoulder-straps was not common issue at this school, but
maybe there was a change during the war. Maybe the number 1 stands
for the first year of attendance.
Can you please scan seperately the collar-patches, as well as the shoulder-
strap with number
This is what I see with the shown photo:
Wilhelm
Thanks a lot !!!
I ask for more pictures.....
Didier
Thanks. The collar-patch is anyway as for the Luftwaffe-Musikschule,
attendance first year with one Litze. The color is a lighter-blue.
I have done quite some research about this school. Did not find
anything about the shoulder-straps with indication. Maybe they
were introduced in mid-war or so. The piping color matches the
color for the shoulder-strap and it is indeed a one, so matching
the Litze.
I would not know about another institution, using/wearing this!
Last edited by Wilhelm Saris; 04-12-2018 at 10:19 AM.
Hello
many thanks !!
cordially
Didier
Actually, I think they are students at the Unteroffiziervorschule 1 / Unteroffizierschule (V) 1 at Schloß Hubertusburg.
According to Schlicht/Angolia, they wore the yellow branch color of the aviation branch and the same system of collar patch lace bars to identify the student's year in the school as described above, as well as the school number "1" as a shoulder strap cypher. (According to the authors, wear of nos. 2 to 4 by the other three schools is plausible, but not verified.) Wear of the breast eagle is also expressly mentioned.
Between the absence of the special sleeve patch for the music school, the presence of the shoulder strap cypher and breast eagle and the somewhat lighter tone of the collar patches, I am pretty certain that this what we see here.
HPL2008: I am getting old, maybe too old for this hobby.
For you:
I fully agree with you. I am deeply ashamed as I did not remember an article,
which was researched by the well-known George Petersen, translated by my
friend Mathieu de Wolf, who was mentored nota bene by me! Hello Wilhelm,
wake up!!
The article was published in the US-magazine Military Advisor. The article was
about the Unteroffizier-Vorschulen der Luftwaffe. Apparently it was too long ago
to remember: fall 2003, so about fifteen years ago!!
Here some photos, included with the article:
LUVS-1 was at the castle of Hubertusburg at Wermsdorf near Leipzig (May 1, 1941);
LUS-2 was at Stetten (Stuttgart) - April 1, 1942;
LUS-3 at the castle of Werneck near Würzburg and Schweinfurt - April 1, 1942;
LUS-4 at Neu-Sandez (in the Generalgouvernement).
The collar-patches were yellow; the laces/Litze one for the first year;
two for the second year; three for for the third year.
The use of a pip is believed a lad being a Zugführer.
Sorry Didier, I put you on the wrong side. Now it is better! Thanks to HPL2008
Hello all of you
many thanks for your job !!!!
Great !!
cordially
Didier
Hello Didier,
you may find it interesting to know, that the most left boy on the photo is still alive.
It is a huge coincidence. I have the same photo here.
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