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**Reilly** · 06-29-2012, 02:10 AM

Hey, some guy is listing this on ebay as WW2 original, and I was wondering if he is telling the truth.

**RichieC** · 06-29-2012, 05:23 AM

He is FOS...

Appears to be 1971 made.

**Reilly** · 06-29-2012, 08:27 PM

That's what I was thinking, just wasn't sure that was how you date it, I mostly collect US stuff. Anyway, thanks!

**Jerry B** · 06-29-2012, 08:31 PM

by Reilly

That's what I was thinking, just wasn't sure that was how you date it, I mostly collect US stuff. Anyway, thanks!

The date is at the bottom right of the inkstamp.

**fpicoli** · 07-11-2012, 12:44 AM

Hi,
i would like to share this with you.
It's a Post War Pilotka with a Enamel Red Star Insignia (dated: 1971).
Regards

Fábio

**RichieC** · 07-11-2012, 12:59 AM

It seems to be the same one posted by Reilly.

In any case, I may be mistaken in my assumption that this pilotka needs the smaller and lightweight 24MM star to make it correct (?). I know for a fact the star you show is pre-1964 type for visor caps and winter headdresses - introduced in the mid 1950s.

At times I wish there were more enlightened members here that know about post 1960 items and would show their collections.

I myself would like to put a Soviet-Afghan War period VDV ensemble together at some point in the future.

Regards,

Richie

**fpicoli** · 07-11-2012, 09:54 PM

So,
In your opinion, it is a original 1971 Pilotka with a mid-50s original red star??

**RichieC** · 07-11-2012, 10:03 PM

Correct...

**fpicoli** · 07-11-2012, 11:02 PM

Hi,
The price was a clue that it was not a WWII item (Low opening bid and no reserve).
I purchased it for eleven U.S. dollars assuming that it was a 70's original militaria item, by the stamp on inside
(Similar to that found on a SSh40 soviet Helmet i recently also purchased).
I post it (the Pilotka) on another thread and a fellow collector confimed what i was thinking.
He also ad that the red star insignia is from an earlier period.
I considered it a fair price for an item with 40 years old, in perfect condition.
One thing i learned from buying on ebay is:
"Do not believe on what to dealer says, but on what you can really see from the pictures".
If necessary, contact the dealer an ask for more pictures or information on how he dated the item.
If you still are not certain about something you can always ask for help on the forum or eventuallly widraw you offer.
This way, the fakes or mistaken described item will be detected, sooner or later.
Regards

Fabio