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confused on russian helmets

Article about: Hi all,ive jus bought what was described as a russian 1945 helmet,its ssch 40 shape,no ink stamping but impressed on rear inner lip is 2 31 45 and a star impressed on inside of front lip,it

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    thank you reg and michael,it does have three upper rivets holding the liner,i bought it for 16.00 on e-pay and was going to chuck it back at the vendor so sounds like i didnt do so bad after all,does the 3 upper rivets now switch it back to a 39 ?
    Colin.

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    Quote by wrecker View Post
    thank you reg and michael,it does have three upper rivets holding the liner,i bought it for 16.00 on e-pay and was going to chuck it back at the vendor so sounds like i didnt do so bad after all,does the 3 upper rivets now switch it back to a 39 ?
    Colin.
    No, this is still a Czech Model 53 helmet... just possibly an early one made from a Soviet supplied shell. If you desire a Ssh-39 I would suggest you stick to a good LMZ 41 type with "textbook" features.

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    i am no expert but the profile of the shell looks very much like the ssch40 as opposed to the vz53 although the amount of rivits is slightly confusing

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    hi colin i just wanted to show you my vz 53 with what appears a reworked ssch 40 lid it also has faint star stamp and 5 digit batch number 13154 it has 3 high placed rivits for the liner etc and 6 lower rivits that do nothing at all ,thanks jamesClick image for larger version. 

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    very nice,thank you James.

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    the helmet lid seems inferior quality to the russian lids almost like its a reject there is a defined band at the lower part of the helmet at liner level about an inch wide that goes round the circumference and also the rivits arent symetrical , my theory is these are similar to what the germans did with there reject helmets passing them on to the luftschutz etc but hey what do i know cheers james

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    A related question to add to the confusion maybe.....as it sounds as though many the Czech helmets were Russions ssch 39 and 40 re-works, were they still designated as M53's? I have what I am 99% certain is a Czech M53 but want to be certain of identification when speaking of it's Russian re-work counterparts.

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    russ if you get chance put some detailed pics on for for all to see maybe the more learned on here might shed more light

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    As requested, here are a few pix of our (what I believe to be) Czech M53. Tried to show the rivet location in these photos.

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    this looks very interesting , and sorry to keep pestering you for photos , the deep profile of the rim looks very much like ssch 39 are there any rivits under the banding ?thanks for posting i like the used period look of this helmet and looks great displayed cheers james

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