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Any ideas on this infantry regiment 21 fob?.

Article about: I picked this up today, but have not seen one before.Eagle mounted on dlack ribbon 65 mm long.white metal tip on bottom of ribbon engraved 16.(E)/J.R.21..I can only think that it could possi

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    Default Any ideas on this infantry regiment 21 fob?.

    I picked this up today, but have not seen one before.Eagle mounted on dlack ribbon 65 mm long.white metal tip on bottom of ribbon engraved 16.(E)/J.R.21..I can only think that it could possibly be for a wife , mother of husband, son killed in action
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    no idea but I like it.

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    These were bought in Soldiers Canteens or from local military outfitters by servicemen themselves. Worn on the watch chain as a remembrance of their service time. These would most likely have been a pre war item.

    Infanterieregiment 21 - Lexikon der Wehrmacht

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    No red flags that I can see! I like it!
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    I would question the inscription? Are you sure it reads that?

    Looks more like 16(S)/JR21 to me?

    Only thing is, an Infantry Regt only had 14 Kompanies?

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    This might be of some interest...

    Bob

    The unit was formed in October 1934 in Nuremberg under the designation Wehrgauleitung Nürnberg. Shortly after its creation it was renamed Artillerieführer VII.[Note 1] Although created as an en cadre division from the very beginning, both names were intended to suggest much smaller units, as German military strength was still restricted by the Treaty of Versailles. After Adolf Hitler renounced the treaty, and officially announced the creation of the Wehrmacht in October 1935, the unit was renamed to the 17th Infantry Division.

    The organic regimental units of this division were formed by the expansion of the 21st Bavarian Infantry Regiment of the 7th Infantry Division of the Reichswehr. The division participated in the annexation of Austria in March 1938. During the Invasion of Poland it was reinforced by the infamous Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler and attached to the German Eighth Army of Gen. Johannes Blaskowitz. Under command of Gen. Herbert Loch, the division took part in heavy fighting in Silesia, then in the vicinity of Łódź. At Pabianice it faced elements of the Polish 28th Infantry Division and the Wołyńska Cavalry Brigade. After the war, the Poles accused the division of committing atrocities.

    War crimes
    Throughout the war, the soldiers of the 17th division committed a number of war crimes, notably in Poland during the 1939 campaign.[1] In a war crime investigation by the KBZPNP commission, the predecessor of the Institute of National Remembrance, it was established that the first major war crime occurred between September 3 and September 4, 1939 in the vicinity of Złoczew. In a large scale mass murder, the soldiers of the 17th Division burnt approximately 80% of buildings in the town and killed without a trial approximately 200 Polish citizens of Polish and Jewish ethnicity, out of whom only 71 people were identified after the war, while the identity of the remaining victims was impossible to establish as they were war refugees unknown to local inhabitants.[2] Some of the victims were burnt alive, while the bodies of other people were thrown into burning houses. After the war the Polish authorities presented the West German prosecutors' office with the documents of the investigation, as well as the detailed information on the 71 identified victims. However, the latter declined to prosecute the war crimes on various grounds. The German authorities argued that it was impossible to determine which units of the 17th Division took part in the crimes as the 1st chapter of the war diary of SS-Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler Regiment was missing. Moreover, the German prosecutors argued, that the deeds described by the witnesses must have been directly related to warfare, notably struggle against the partisans[Note 2] and that all of the civilian victims were hostile towards the German forces.[2] The only two cases excluded from that reasoning was the murder of a 1½ year old child murdered with a butt of a German soldiers' rifle and the case of a wounded woman thrown into a burning house. The earlier case was explained as a common crime (and as such subject to non-claim), while the latter case was turned down due to inability to find the direct responsible.[2] The same reasoning was given for the case of 10 Polish peasants executed in the nearby village of Grójec Wielki after a Polish reconnaissance plane appeared in the area.[3]

    In a separate case investigated by the after the war, the KBZPNP commission requested the prosecution of the commanders of the 10th and 17th Divisions, which took part in a mass murder of several dozen Poles in the village of Włyń near Łódź.[4][Note 3] All cases of the murder of Polish civilians in that village were turned down by the German prosecutors' office on April 22, 1974.[5] The German authorities argued, that it is not impossible that all the civilians trying to escape from the German forces were in fact partisans. This was the reasoning in the case of certain Ochecki who was shot to death while trying to rescue his cattle from a barn set in flames by the German soldiers. The German authorities argued that it was fair to assume that he was trying to escape from the German soldiers.[6] The same reasoning was given in the case of a mentally sick person shot the same day. In the case of Wawrzyn Piecyk, who was killed while being wounded and unconscious, it was argued that he might have been pretending to be unconscious in order to escape from the German soldiers,[4][6] while the case of Józef Jawor, a man who did not stop when requested to and instead hid in his house, where he was shot through the doors, was explained as a killing done during a fight.[6] The case of Maria Konieczna, a deaf woman who was shot after not responding to a German soldier, was considered a common crime,[Note 4] while the killing of Józef Gałka was explained as legitimate, since a picture of his brother in Polish military uniform found in Gałka's wallet was a proof that he might have been a partisan himself.[6] In the same decision, the German authorities declared that the patients of the mental institution in the town of Warta, killed by the soldiers of the 17th Division in the hospital and dressed in hospital pyjamas, were victims of a common crime rather than a war crime or a murder.[Note 4]

    In addition to that, the Leibstandarte regiment attached to the 17th Division was notorious for burning all villages it passed through.[7]

    After the invasion of Poland
    After the war against Poland, the unit was withdrawn to Germany and then took part in the battle of France, as part of XIIIth Corps. Afterwards, in the summer of 1940, the division trained for taking part in the abortive invasion of England. In 1941 it participated in Operation Barbarossa as part of Army Group Center. In the fall of 1941 it took part in the Battle of Moscow. After sustaining heavy losses, it was withdrawn to France in June, 1942. The division returned to the Eastern Front in April, 1943, fighting around river Mius, Nikopol, Uman, Chişinău and Iaşi. In August, 1944 the unit was shifted to Poland and fought to contain Soviet bridgeheads on the Vistula river, around Warka and Radom. It remained in this sector until it was heavily damaged in the course of the Soviet Vistula-Oder offensive in January, 1945. The division was then reconstituted from its remnants and fought in April and May 1945 in the area around Görlitz. At the end of the war it was located in the Riesengebirge mountains (today Karkonosze).

    Commanding officers
    Generalleutnant Herbert Loch, 1 September 1939
    Generalleutnant Ernst Güntzel, 28 October 1941
    Generalleutnant Gustav-Adolf von Zangen, 25 December 1941
    Generalmajor Richard Zimmer, 1 April 1943
    Oberst Scheiker, December 1943
    Generalmajor Paul Schricker, January 1944
    Oberst Otto-Hermann Brücker, February 1944
    Oberst Georg Haus, 15 March 1944
    Oberst Theodor Preu, 1 April 1944
    Generalleutnant Richard Zimmer, April 1944
    Generalmajor Max Sachsenheimer, 4 September 1944
    Order of battle
    Infanterie-Regiment 21
    Infanterie-Regiment 55
    Infanterie-Regiment 95 (later renamed to Grenadier-Regiment 95)
    Artillerie-Regiment 17
    Aufklärungs-Abteilung 17
    Panzerjäger-Abteilung 17
    Pionier-Battalion 17
    Nachrichten-Abteilung 17

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    I would question the inscription? Are you sure it reads that?

    Looks more like 16(S)/JR21 to me?

    Only thing is, an Infantry Regt only had 14 Kompanies?

    Cheers, Ade.

    Ade, I think they may have gone up to 16 Kompanies during the war, will have to check that though

    Bob

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    Thanks Bob.

    Cheers, Ade.
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