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BeVo and it's misunderstood meaning

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    I hear a lot of people say, " Oh that's BeVo"...............But I'm not sure that everyone will know the true meaning, so here is a little "something" to clear up any misunderstandings...................

    BeVo is a term used by collectors to refer to a style of silk embroidery common in German WW II badges. The name itself comes from the BeVo-Wuppertal firm (though they were not the only firm to produce this type of embroidery during WW II, the name has stuck among collectors.) Be stands for Beteilingung, or "partnership" in English, Vo is short for Vorsteher. The firm BeVo-Wuppertal came into being when the firms of Lucas Vorsteher and Ewelda Vorsteher amalgamated; both came from the Wuppertal-Bermen area.

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    Here two advertisements. Note the left one actually is for Bandfabrik Ewald Vorsteher,
    who already advertised with the BEVO indication. Note the meaning for BEVO = Bandfabrik Ewald Vorsteher.
    The BE does not stand for Beteiligung.
    The second advertisement is for a concern Lucas & Vorsteher. It is obvious BEVO already existed before the creating of Lucas & Vorsteher!!

    One of the concerns that produced according the BEVO-standards was the well-known concern of Günther & Windrath, a main supplier
    for the Reichsarbeitsdienst from Wuppertal-Unterbarmen.

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    Ewald Vorsteher, later from Wuppertal-Wichlinghausen got the RZM-permission: A4/134 (A4 formerly was TA). Ewald got his permission
    before G&W, as well as L&V;
    Günther & Windrath did get: A4/300. They got their permission at least in 1934;
    Lucas & Vorsteher got the RZM-permission: A4/427. They got their permission at least in 1934.
    All three permissions remained throughout the TR-period.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    BeVo and it's misunderstood meaning!

    No reaction(s) at all. So, no interest about the misunderstood meaning?
    Ewald Vorsteher and Lucas & Vorsteher are two different manufacturers/
    concerns with different RZM-permissions and existing at least between
    1934 and the end of the war! None of them was ever mentioned in the
    Mitteilungsblatt der RZM they lost their permission.

    In the 1938 RZM-list the concern of Ewald Vorsteher was located at the
    Kreuzstrasse 72/74 at Wuppertal-Wichlinghausen; Lucas & Vorsteher
    was located then at the Lenneperstrasse 39/50 at Wuppertal-Oberbarmen.
    So both existed simultaneously.....

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Thanks, Wim, for the detailed information.

    The "Beteiligung" myth is hard to kill, although it doesn't even make sense in this context; I already pointed it out a few years ago:

    http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/heer-l...tml#post303160

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    I know HPL2008, myths stay forever while some "ace" once has told this.
    It is difficult to accept it to be otherwise! In ten years the same question/
    explanation will return. Or sooner, while ........???

    Many concerns did produce according to the so-called Bandwebverfahren,
    but only once concern had its products registered as BEVO: Ewald Vorsteher.

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    Many concerns produced according this system, too much to mention. As
    said before Günther & Windrath was a big one.

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    There does appear to be more knowledge available than in the past. Thanks both of you for expanding the "Myth" interesting to see period advertisements.
    I went there last year to go on the Kaiser wagon. lovely place

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    Quote by John Brandon View Post
    There does appear to be more knowledge available than in the past. Thanks both of you for expanding the "Myth" interesting to see period advertisements.
    I went there last year to go on the Kaiser wagon. lovely place
    Yes, there is. But this fact/these facts I know already for 15-25 years or longer (the meaning of BEVO - at least 25; the RZM numbers - 15 years).
    If it makes sense to help, this then will be done. Who is "served" with old myths? And such exist in all fields!

    Enjoy...the first time I was in the Schwebebahn at Wuppertal is now at least 66-67 years ago. Must have been in about 1950.

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
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    Quote by Wilhelm Saris View Post
    Enjoy...the first time I was in the Schwebebahn at Wuppertal is now at least 66-67 years ago. Must have been in about 1950.
    And it hasn't changed a bit. Wonderful piece of history

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    Photo is not that old. This photo fits better in the timeframe for 1950!

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
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    Making an end to so-called myths classifies the difference
    between War Relics and other forums, who contineously
    keep up those myths!! They eagerly keep upright such -
    never researched - nonsense!

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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