Heer & Luftwaffe tropical eagles & Tropenhelm shield: Real?

[plumbob]

Hi Guys I am looking for some help again please.
I’ve been offered these badges but unfortunately Its another area of collecting I don’t know much about.
I think one is a Luftwaffe Afrika Korps breast eagle and a tropical hat army shield not sure about the other.
Are they genuine and what would be a reasonable offer ?
Thanks Rod

[Wagriff]

Am not too crazy about the trapezoid(the beak looks a wee bit on the vulturish side...)but the others looks fine.

[davejb]

The Heer and Luftwaffe tropical eagles look like good originals, as for the shield, i think an extreme close up of both sides would help better

[plumbob]

Thanks guys so far.
I.ve asked them what they want for them and got a reply £40.
What do think is it worth taking a chance with them.
They say they came from a house clearance that could be a true story or not.
I see one of the pins on the shield is missing.
Rod

[Jerry B]

Better pictures would help pass an informed opinion, but the Heer eagle and the heer tropenhelm shield are probably good, whilst the luftwaffe shirt eagle needs much better pics to pass any sort of opinion. If the Heer tunic eagle is good, that is worth way more than £40 as is the luft if real. The heer tropenhelm shield is worth about £10-20.

Again, better pics are needed to be certain.

[plumbob]

I don’t know if you noticed Jerry but you can blow those pictures up Im sure you did though.
Just saying in case it makes any difference.
Its took me since Sunday to get these pictures from them because of a lot of confusion.
But i am starting to like those odds you are giving.
Thanks Rod

[Jerry B]

Yes Rod, I know you can blow them up and obviously I did. Fakes are so good these days that you need to be able to see the weave on cloth insignia and the pebbling on the tropenhelm shields to be certain. Some fakes you can tell by other features, but the better ones need a close up examination, and as with most things on forums, it is being done from photographs only. The better the pics, the less the chance of getting it wrong. The price you have quoted for all 3 is very good and if either of the cloth eagles are correct, you will have a bargain, but if all are bad, you will have paid too much.

This is the sort of level of detail I would want to see in a picture to pass a certain opinion. All examples from my collection.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Rod, I reckon they are worth a punt. And I am not a gambling man by nature.

Cheers, Ade.

[Wagriff]

Put it this way, Rod. The Heer tropical looks to be the surest of the lot and it's worth the 40 by itself. The others are just a bonus.

[plumbob]

Ok guys thanks again i think i will go for it!
I see now Jerry what you mean with the weave and better pictures.
If I get them i hope you don,t mind me posting them again for evaluation.
I suppose at the end of the day they aren’t going to break the bank .
Thanks
Rod