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Article about: Hello friends, what kind of Badge is that? I know its postwar, but i cant find any informations in the internet.

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    Found it in the following Austrian Army link. The wiki translate looked pretty accurate, but had to change a few things.

    Quote by WikiTranslate
    Upheaval in mountain training

    In December 2013, the contract for cooperation between the German Armed Forces (DBW) and the Austrian Armed Forces (ÖBH) was signed to carry out training and practice projects in the field of mountain and mountain combat training. This opens a new chapter for the qualified mountain training in the ÖBH with the year 2015.

    The previous three-level model of qualified mountain training with Army High Alpine (HHAlp), Army Mountain Helper (HBFG) and Army Mountain Guide (HBF) is replaced by a two-stage model. This consists of the high altitude mountain specialists (HHGS) and the HBF as maximum qualification. Purely nationally for Austria, the armed forces demanded a further qualification to cover the General Troop Training. It is the army mountain instructor (HGA), who represents a slimmed down HHGS (without mountain combat, without ice training) and in two 3-week programs one should be trained.

    The training target for the HGA is currently set as follows:

    The Army Mountain Instructor can:

    - In the summer, soldiers lead up to the level of the sub-unit in difficult terrain up to the level of difficulty UIAA III + and make this terrain practicable.

    - lead soldiers down to the level of the subunit in the winter according to the limits of the "Decision Support for the HHGS", - as instructors convey the contents of the General Troop Training.

    - As a training manager (after completed NCO or officer training), the General Troop Mountain Training in the summer in the unglaciated mountains.

    - build and operate a rappelling point at existing fixed points.

    - Carry out simple rescue measures.

    - Participate in organized rescue operations.

    The high altitude mountain specialist corresponds in terms of mountainous terrain to the previous HHAlp, as can be deduced from the training objective (words in italics are terms of the German Armed Forces): [GHP95134's note: there were no italics in the original article.]

    The Army High Mountain Specialist can:

    - In the summer, soldiers lead up to the level of the sub-unit in difficult terrain up to the level of difficulty UIAA III + and make this terrain practicable.

    - lead troops down to the level of the subunit in winter according to the limits of the "Decision Support for the HHGS".

    - according to use, carry out combat tasks in high mountains.

    - as an instructor to teach the contents of troop training / ANTRA 2-3.

    - As training manager (note: at the German Armed Forces from Sergeant major) the troop mountain training in the summer in the unglaciated high mountains lead.

    - Carry out simple rescue measures.

    - Participate in organized rescue operations.

    New to the HHAlp, as he was trained in recent years, is above all that the mountain combat again represents an essential part of the training to HHGS. The training lasts five weeks for the summer part and five weeks for the winter part and is identical in content by the Mountain and Winter Combat Center of the DBW in Mittenwald and the Mountain Combat Center / HTS in Saalfelden. Therefore, it is possible that soldiers of both countries can complete the training both in Austria and in Germany.

    The qualification HBFG will no longer be trained from 2015, but will be eliminated without replacement. All those trained to become HBFG retain their qualifications and can continue their training accordingly.

    Training as an army mountain guide is carried out in a joint course with the DBW with the following goal:

    The army mountain guide can:

    - advise commanders / superior levels to the commander in the planning, preparation and implementation of missions in the mountains and participate in the leadership process.

    - Use military equipment under all environmental conditions to guide soldiers of difficulty level IV.

    - lead with alpine equipment of difficulty level V + in terms of the mountain (boots must accomodate crampons).

    - Conduct rescue operations and carry out missions as an army air rescue service.

    - make difficult terrain sections in the mountains feasible for the troops.

    - avalanche control, even from helicopters.

    - lead the troop training (TGebA) / mountain training according to ANTRA2-3 and the qualified mountain training up to the HHGS, with special suitability up to the main station, or convey as instructor the contents.

    The training for HBF consists of three parts. It covers a total of 20 weeks in the summer part, 14 weeks in the winter part and an additional three weeks for the International Rescue Specialist (IRS).

    The entire course must be completed within one year. The first pilot course will run from June 2015 to May 2016. The entry into the entire qualified mountain education in the future without compulsory.

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  3. #12


    One more bit of info: The badges can be found in the Bundeswehr uniform regulations under # 565 and 566:

    Informationsfreiheitsanfragen - FragDenStaat

  4. #13


    What a fascinating thread. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this and learned something new. Well done to those who contributed.

  5. #14


    Okay .... this is interesting. I just noticed that the repro badge on top has the maker name "Breiherr Garmisch" on it. That's the same maker of my AFRC Ski Patrol Badge that I received in 1978. I just researched that repro HBF badge and it is an old copy made by Breiherr Garmisch. WAF link.

    It's much nicer than the current crop of Chinese reproductions. The Chinese copies accurately use a silkscreen techinique for the words Heeresbergführer; whereas, on the Breiherr copy and other newer copies, the word Heeresbergführer is part of the matrix so when the enamel is polished, the metalic words are glowingly gold.

    -- Guy
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  6. #15


    One of the comments in the link I provided in post #14 [dated 27 Nov 2008] speaks to the original poster's badge:
    Quote by berghof73
    That´s a "Breiherr Garmisch" - Heeresbergführer badge - a old copy, perhaps a regular version for the "young" Bundeswehr.
    These pieces are very well made - the prices are between 250,- and 300,- €. Recently such a badge was sold on ebay germany for 365,- €.
    -- Guy

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