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Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

Article about: Hi guys, I got this for Christmas this year. To me, it looks like some sort of scribe trade patch. I really don't know much about these. Is it even original? Thanks, Mo

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    Default Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

    Hi guys,

    I got this for Christmas this year. To me, it looks like some sort of scribe trade patch. I really don't know much about these. Is it even original?

    Thanks,
    Mo
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    Default Re: Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

    HI, it`s a clerical NCO career sleeve insignia.....Pete.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    Thanks Pete!

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    Default Re: Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

    I found it comes in at least two other grades too,one is like yours with one stripe and the other for EM with only the crossed quill pens.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    So there were three seperate versions for officers, NCO's, and enlistedmen?

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    Default Re: Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

    No,the one with the one stripe under the anchor just appears to be a higher senior NCO grade,they also come in blue on white for the white uniform.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    Default Re: Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

    Quote by ObKrieger View Post
    So there were three seperate versions for officers, NCO's, and enlistedmen?
    Basically, it breaks down like this:

    • Seamen below Petty Officer rank [Mannschaften, i.e. those up to and including Oberstabsgefreiter] wore their specialty insignia in the form of circular cloth badges on the left upper arm (above their rank chevrons).
    • Junior Petty Officers [Unteroffiziere ohne Portepee, i.e. the Maate and Obermaate] wore combined specialty- and rank insignia in the form of oval cloth badges on the left upper arm. Their design always included an anchor (in a few cases, two crossed anchors). The Obermaat ranks were identified by a chevron below the device.
    • Senior Petty Officers [Unteroffiziere mit Portepee] wore their specialty insignia in the form of metal devices on their shoulder boards.
    • Commissioned Officers wore their specialty insignia in embroidered form above the sleeve braid or as metal devices on their shoulder boards/epaulets (depending on the type of uniform and order of dress worn).


    (All this applies to the white and blue uniforms; the field grey and tropical uniforms are another matter.)

    What you have here is the combined specialty- and rank insigne for a Schreibersmaat. A Schreiberobermaat would have worn the same badge with an additional chevron below the anchor-and-quills device.

    This version with a gilt metal device (it has lost its gilt finish) on a dark blue badgecloth patch was for wear on the dress jacket and pea-coat. A golden-yellow machine embroidered version on blue cloth was worn on the blue shirt and a blue machine embroidered version on a white washable patch was for wear on the white shirt and the white work uniform.

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    Default Re: Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

    Thank you Andreas!

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