The second jacket is a bit of a mash up and very salty
Field dressing pocket has been removed badges stuck to the collar as well as tresse
buttons repositioned and holes where badges were on th pockets
but it shows a lot of age
the sigrunes were in the pocket with the tresse and are bullion ( corroded) on velvet
any pointers/ help greatly appreciated
It is all reproduction!!!
Thought as much
Can you point out why it's a repro please
As you stated the first one is a reproduction. Not even a one piece of original insignia IMO.
The second tunic is bad due to alot of things. The cut of the pocket flaps. It looks like it is an open collar 4 button tunic. The buttons are removeable. The lining material, The tunic material , the tunic markings,.....you can pretty much go on forever. Neither are good IMO.
The buttons weren't originally removable someone's made holes in the tunic to push them through
The ss collar tabs are horrible. Incorrect material and runes. It has a hitler youth rzm tag on it, I have no idea why though. The tag maybe the only thing ok here IMO, but due to the water damage, I can not be certain.