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British coat of arms. Helmet plate?

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ID:	306477Hi all. I'm new here, 1st post so be gentle with me.
    I have a small 2nd hand shop so i come across all manner of things.
    Recently i bought this coat of arms at a local auction, the listing said it was thought to be a helmet plate but was very vague.
    If anyone here can help as to identification and rough value that would be very much appreciated.

    It measures 6 inches across at its widest point and about 5 and 3 quarter inches high. It looks to be pressed from thin brass or something similiar.

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    Can't seem to find this one anywhere, but it looks similar to the later General Services Badge worn. I think most of the earlier badges were made from white metal.
    Tom

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    Thanks Tom. Can you suggest anywhere i might look for it?

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    I have got a similar one, posted here as well, still didn't find what is was used for!
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    Thanks Tom. Can you suggest anywhere i might look for it?
    Just google "British helmet plates" and go from there...... :-)
    Tom

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    This the closest I could find. It's for Royal Engineers. The ones I have seen all have something below the badge which is missing on yours. Does it look like something was broken off the bottom of yours at any time?
    Tom
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    I have looked through a few references for this and can't find anything definite. What fitting does it have on the back? Helmet plates (and shako plates) usually have a sort of long lug, in order to go through the cork of the helmet.

    Rob

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    Welcome to the forum
    This is just a shot in the dark.

    I am thinking the plate hasnít got a good curve on it to belong to a hat, I was thinking a drum or door or something.
    As I say a shot in the dark.
    Rod
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    Hi guys, thank you for the suggestions. It doesn't have any way of fixing to a helmet that i can see (no holes or lugs)
    Does the lion on top of the crown give us a time period?
    It also looks as though it may have been flattened out, maybe?
    Underneath the crest it has a kind of flattened out leaf in the centre and a rose (maybe) on the left side and a thistle on the right

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    To Stuka, It is very similiar to the one you posted except for the lion on top of the crown and some piercing around the design on the bottom of mine.
    I'd say they are the same but one is later or earlier.

    To Stug, it doesn't look like anything has broken off it at any stage.

    I've scoured the net and found nothing on it so still hoping someone knows what it is.

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