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Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie

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    Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum. I have recently picked up two WWII helmets at an auction, one is carboard and one is non magnetic steel, regarding the cardboard one I have searched the web and the only picture of one is on this site so it must be pretty rare. I have read the posts which I found helpful. There are some letters 7 3/4 TTC II 1939. I have attached photo's of both helmets. Any help would be much appreciated.
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    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

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    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie   Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

    Please does anyone have any info this cardboard helmet and a non magnet steel Brodie  

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    The top helmet is a British army MK2.The maker is ???(sorry, i had a good link to all the known makers but its offline!)Looks fairly tidy and original.The one below it is a Civil defense type made of compressed fibre, this type wouldnt conduct electricity.
    Both nice lids, the civil defense type is quite rare imo.

    HELMETS HELMET COLLECTION BRITISH HELMET UNITED KINGDOM

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    Thats great, thanks for that. Is that the only reason for the compressed fibre one?

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    I thinks so..maybe an economy measure?I'd be intrested to know too.

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    The helmet was made by E. Camelinat & Co Ltd of Birmingham the MK.11 liner by Teddy Toy Company. Of Dagenham . The fiber board helmets are generally known as a Cromwell protectors manufactured by Cromwell as they seem to be the only makers name you see on them but there could have been other makers. They were a privet purchase helmet I have a war time advertisement for them somewhere. After Dunkirk there was a helmet shortage so by law all steel helmets went to the government. So non metal helmet makers like Cromwell and Plasfort produced non metal MK.11s I have even seen leather ones. Cromwells and Plasforts were also extensively used by ammunition factory's with a rubberised chin strap. The pictures show a rubberised chin strap and a Plasfort which had a leather chin strap but its perished, the Plasfort seems also to be made of some compressed fiber?
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    I can't thank you enough for the info Joseph, you have been immensely helpful.
    Due the rarity do you think the fibre one is valuable?

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    I don't think they are that valuable, home front helmets don't seem to match the price of military ones the most I have seen a a plain Cromwell go for on Ebay is about 30 and I have seen them go for a lot less, there is one on their now a buy it now for 65 or best offer but he looks like a dealer and it has the rubberised chin strap which do seem more rare than the bog standard ones.

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    Well that's a couple of good helmets to start with
    The fibre helmet was as said a private purchase helmet, used only by civilians.
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    Thanks for that Aaron, you've got a couple of nice lids there and really good condition. That is the first leather one I've seen.

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    Hi Joseph, a little more info on the compressed fibre helmet, VERO II 1940 is on one support strap, does this alter your info or is just the same. Thanks Ben

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