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Thoughts on this Mk II flashed to the 49th Polar Bears

Article about: I was watching this Mk II on E-Bay for the last week out of curiosity it is a 1943 dated C.L./C.and the helmet looks to have been scoured down and the decal on the side does not impress me i

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    Default Thoughts on this Mk II flashed to the 49th Polar Bears

    I was watching this Mk II on E-Bay for the last week out of curiosity it is a 1943 dated C.L./C.and the helmet body looks to have been scoured down under were the decal sits and the decal on the side does not impress me in the least I would have thought if it stood a chance at all it would have been a water slide transfer decal which I have never seen before credited to this Army Group or did I miss the bus on this one !!!!
    This IMO looks to be a regular decal and or a sticker it did sell for a whopping $265.00 US though anyone else have any thoughts and or opinions .

    Regards Mark
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    Always on the look out for WW II Canadian Helmets and Cam nets to add to my collection.

    Found a Canadian Mk II Medics Helmet and yes I know they are about as rare as hens teeth !!!!!

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    Hi Mark, it certainly does appear that the "flash" has been applied on top of a cleaned area. I am not fully conversant with all the types of flash used but it does look more like a sticker than a decal, though perhaps these were used, I would certainly never say never. If all original the price is pretty good, though if pimped then someone has wasted a lot of dosh.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Hi Jerry if originally period applied I believe it to be a 1 off and very probably not standard issued helmet decal at all as I can find 0 to compare it to this is not of course to say it is not so as I really enjoy hunting for those odd type of 1 of a kind helmets I am just not convinced by this example here is an interesting read from the British Commonwealth Badge Forum concerning the Regiment.
    Z Force patches - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

    Regards Mark
    Always on the look out for WW II Canadian Helmets and Cam nets to add to my collection.

    Found a Canadian Mk II Medics Helmet and yes I know they are about as rare as hens teeth !!!!!

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    I was thinking more of 49th west riding division rather than Z force Mark.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Looks to be a good target to me.

    Why oh why would ANYONE put a bullseye on the helmet. It's like saying, here I am, shoot me

    Shape, shine, silhouette, ect...the old sweats will know what I'm on about

    I was part of the 49th, many years ago, we had the flash on our jumpers, but helmets? Never in a zillion years

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    Thanks Jerry the reason I attributed it to the Z force instead of the 49th was do to the fact it was applied of course on a Canadian Mk II now stranger things have been known to happen and it of course would not be the first time that kit was shared and or passed around by Commonwealth soldiers or lost in a friendly game of craps perhaps.
    Hi John thank you for your input I myself do not like it but thought I would ask for a few other opinions as I am always striving to learn.

    Regards Mark
    Always on the look out for WW II Canadian Helmets and Cam nets to add to my collection.

    Found a Canadian Mk II Medics Helmet and yes I know they are about as rare as hens teeth !!!!!

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    I know it was very common for British troops to be issued Canadian BD uniforms, though if the same applies to helmets is not known to me. Perhaps Z force is more likely for a Canadian used helmet and therefore very rare I assume.

    I doubt which ever unit used it, the wearing of decals in the combat was probably not normally done and these tend to be more commonly seen, certainly with British forces as a home front affectation either early war or post war, or for the home guard units associated with their county regiments seems to be the most common use of such lids.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Mark,
    I agree with your scepticism. I guess conceivably it could have belonged to a CANLOAN officer attached to the British 49th Division, but such CANLOAN helmets as I have encountered have been British not Canadian. As you note the surface seem sanded under the decal, which itself look awfully pristine.
    Roger

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    Thank you for your thoughts and opinions Jerry and Roger I am naturally skeptical about flashed helmets but this particular example just did not sit right I very seldom ask for opinions but IMO this one warranted a different set of eyes as there could very well have been a cross over do to the flash I was on the fence as to the helmets possible use by either Z force and or W 49th Div.

    Regards Mark
    Always on the look out for WW II Canadian Helmets and Cam nets to add to my collection.

    Found a Canadian Mk II Medics Helmet and yes I know they are about as rare as hens teeth !!!!!

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    Hi Mark a bit late in on this one but in my opinion it stands 0% chance of being a period flash. I would apply the same criteria to MKII flashed helmets as German, and that is that a decal would never be period applied over a pre-cleaned area. Decals maybe found over the top of other decals, or under an over paint or even painted around but not like this in my opinion. A pimped up piece that has taken some poor sod in! Leon.
    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway

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