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Is the designer of the SA symbol known?

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    Is the designer of the SA symbol known?
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    Allegedly, it was designed by Walter Heck; see:

    Axis History Forum • SS-Hstuf(?) Walter Heck, the designer of the SS emblem .

    That link refers to Robin Lumsden; the text passage from "Himmler's Black Order" crediting Heck as the designer of the SA symbol states:

    "In 1931, SS-Sturmführer Walter Heck, who was a graphic designer employed by the badge manufacturing firm of Ferdinand Hoffstätter in Bonn, drew two Sig-Runes side by side and thus created the ubiquitous 'SS Runes' insignia widely used by all branches of the organisation after 1933. [...] Heck was likewise responsible for the 'SA runes' badge, which combined a runic 'S' with a Gothic 'A'."

    (Sorry; I have no period documentation on this.)

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    Many thanks for the link & information
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    This is what the "Uniformen-Markt" from May 1, 1936 says on page 86:
    (published also in the magazine "Der SA-Mann", number 15 from 1936):
    the SA symbol originated from a 1929-contest, which was lauched by the
    SA High-Command. The design was handed over by Hans Zöberlein (the
    well-known poet) and the leader from Sturmbann II from Standarte "List"
    from Munich, Obersturmbannführer Max Zankl.

    The symbol was the old Teutonic sign for lightning together with the so-called
    "Mannrune" (the symbol of a stern and unbending man with a flaming sword).
    Both symbols were combined with a ring. Later the hook to connect both was
    added.

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    Maybe it was Heck who added the hook, but this is not mentioned!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Heck no, err, no Heck then.

    Thanks to Wim Saris for providing excellent period information (as always)!

    For the benefit of the non-German speaking members, allow me to add the full translation of the above article:

    "How the SA-civilian insignia came to be. (From an illustrated report in the magazine "Der SA-Mann", no. 15/1936.) Originating from an idea contest announced in 1929 by the then-Supreme SA Command, the SA civilian insignia was created from the so-called Siegrune - the ancient Germanic symbol for lightning - combined with a second component, the so-called Mannrune, the rune for the "me". These symbols - the symbol for the sparking word, with which the enemies of the idea are hit and the symbol of the upright, indomitable man - were connected by a ring (unity of these two ideas). The arrangement of the runes was done in such a way that the two letters S and A are recognizable in them. Later on, the addition of a tick made the A even more clearly recognizable. The design was a joint submission by Standartenführer Hans Zöberlin (author of the book "Der Glaube an Deutschland") and the now-commander of Sturmbann II of Standarte "List", Munich, Obersturmbannführer Max Zankl."

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    Thanks HPL2008 for the translation. Much appreciated.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    From a friend I got a great booklet with drawings of nazi symbols:
    Gemalte Zeichen und Symbole des Staates sowie der NSDAP und ihrer Gliederungen
    (Sonderdruck Heft 12/1936 from the magazine "Form und Farbe", published at Berlin.
    12 pages).
    Page 4 gives a description how to design the SA-symbol (see included image).

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    For those interested it might be Weitze has this booklet (anyway a while ago).
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Thanks for posting Wilheim.

    It is great to see a page from a corporate identity manual of the period

    Presumably there must have been many more such corporate design manuals issued covering Nazi symbology also?
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