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Is the designer of the SA symbol known?

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    Is the designer of the SA symbol known?

    Is the designer of the SA symbol known?
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    Allegedly, it was designed by Walter Heck; see:

    Axis History Forum • SS-Hstuf(?) Walter Heck, the designer of the SS emblem .

    That link refers to Robin Lumsden; the text passage from "Himmler's Black Order" crediting Heck as the designer of the SA symbol states:

    "In 1931, SS-Sturmführer Walter Heck, who was a graphic designer employed by the badge manufacturing firm of Ferdinand Hoffstätter in Bonn, drew two Sig-Runes side by side and thus created the ubiquitous 'SS Runes' insignia widely used by all branches of the organisation after 1933. [...] Heck was likewise responsible for the 'SA runes' badge, which combined a runic 'S' with a Gothic 'A'."

    (Sorry; I have no period documentation on this.)

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    Many thanks for the link & information
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    This is what the "Uniformen-Markt" from May 1, 1936 says on page 86:
    (published also in the magazine "Der SA-Mann", number 15 from 1936):
    the SA symbol originated from a 1929-contest, which was lauched by the
    SA High-Command. The design was handed over by Hans Zöberlein (the
    well-known poet) and the leader from Sturmbann II from Standarte "List"
    from Munich, Obersturmbannführer Max Zankl.

    The symbol was the old Teutonic sign for lightning together with the so-called
    "Mannrune" (the symbol of a stern and unbending man with a flaming sword).
    Both symbols were combined with a ring. Later the hook to connect both was
    added.

    Is the designer of the SA symbol known?

    Maybe it was Heck who added the hook, but this is not mentioned!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Heck no, err, no Heck then.

    Thanks to Wim Saris for providing excellent period information (as always)!

    For the benefit of the non-German speaking members, allow me to add the full translation of the above article:

    "How the SA-civilian insignia came to be. (From an illustrated report in the magazine "Der SA-Mann", no. 15/1936.) Originating from an idea contest announced in 1929 by the then-Supreme SA Command, the SA civilian insignia was created from the so-called Siegrune - the ancient Germanic symbol for lightning - combined with a second component, the so-called Mannrune, the rune for the "me". These symbols - the symbol for the sparking word, with which the enemies of the idea are hit and the symbol of the upright, indomitable man - were connected by a ring (unity of these two ideas). The arrangement of the runes was done in such a way that the two letters S and A are recognizable in them. Later on, the addition of a tick made the A even more clearly recognizable. The design was a joint submission by Standartenführer Hans Zöberlin (author of the book "Der Glaube an Deutschland") and the now-commander of Sturmbann II of Standarte "List", Munich, Obersturmbannführer Max Zankl."

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    Thanks HPL2008 for the translation. Much appreciated.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    From a friend I got a great booklet with drawings of nazi symbols:
    Gemalte Zeichen und Symbole des Staates sowie der NSDAP und ihrer Gliederungen
    (Sonderdruck Heft 12/1936 from the magazine "Form und Farbe", published at Berlin.
    12 pages).
    Page 4 gives a description how to design the SA-symbol (see included image).

    Is the designer of the SA symbol known?

    For those interested it might be Weitze has this booklet (anyway a while ago).
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Thanks for posting Wilheim.

    It is great to see a page from a corporate identity manual of the period

    Presumably there must have been many more such corporate design manuals issued covering Nazi symbology also?
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