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Article about: Just found this forum, and the award document for Wilhelm-Richard Rossiger for his RK. For those who may not know, I have researched Erprobungsgruppe 210 since 1980, and have written the his

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    OK - So this is for sale on an auction site and they have one picture. No real close-up. Here it is. I know it would be very difficult to judge, but maybe there can be some educated guesses that can be of help here. I'd really appreciate it. Again - sorry, but this is all that they offer in the way of picture - which might be a clue that it is a fake? Anyway - have a go with your thoughts please.

    Maybe you can tell by the document or something I don't know...
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    I have no idea on this, but my first impression is that it is good.........

    If it is, it will not be cheap !
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Would documents like this have been signed personaly or would it be a facsinlie signature? It would be hard to authenticate unless you took it experts in handwriting and having the ink looked into and all sorts, I'd reckon Hitlers signature would not be hard to fake!

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    Interesting unit this Rössiger was with... Erprobungsgruppe 210

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    Rössiger
    Wilhelm-Richard
    Oberleutnant
    2./Erprobungsgruppe 210
    01.10.40
    Ritterkreuz
    And an extract detailing some actions of Rössiger..............................Now Erpro 210 broke up into its four sections, and Rubensdoerffer himself set course for a more inland CH station, Dunkirk, north-west of Dover. Hauptmann Martin Lutz had been assigned the first and easiest target, Pevensey CH, right at the start of their run and dead ahead as they raced towards land. Oberleutnant Wilhelm-Richard Roessiger had been ordered to follow the coast east to the towering masts just beyond Rye, while Oberleutnant Otto Hintze with his four fighter bombers was deputed to knock down those provocative towers above Dover.
    At Rye along the coast, Roessiger's foursome destroyed every hut, but as at Pevensey the reinforced transmitting and receiving blocks and the watch office survived though the personnel were severely shaken. The damage at Dunkirk, too, proved the success of Rubensdoerffer's training: every bomb bang on target.

    And now an extract from the British repost of that action........
    Suddenly the Ops hut at Rye shuddered, and glass and wooden shutters were toppling; clods of earth founted 400 feet high to splatter the steel aerials. Prone beneath the table, the WAAF crews saw chairs and tables spiral in the air like a jugglers fast flying balls - everywhere the sites were under fire. At Pevensey, tons of gravel swamped the office of the C.O, Flight Lieutenant Marcus Scrogie, only minutes after he left it; at Dover, a bomb sheared past recumbent operators to bury itself six feet beneath the sick quarters. At Dunkirk, one of Rubensdorfer's thousand pounder's literally shifted the concrete transmitting block by inches. All along the coast the tall towers trembled, and black smoke rose to blot out the sun.

    But by mid afternoon, General Wolfgang Martini, Luftwaffe sig
    nals chief, knew bitter disappointment. Operating with stand-by diesels, every station except Ventnor - a write off for three long weeks - was reported back on the air. To Martini, it seemed now as if radar stations could not be silenced for more than a few hours at a time.

    so if this document is real (and really there is no way to tell from the poor photos, it will go for an absolute MINT!

    KC winner during the Battle of Britain, just on the 70th anniversary! Couldn't get any better

    Although for my part. It doesn't look like the detail is there in the folder. These were prized possessions, and very ornate. The eagles head looks like a pigeon
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    I don't think it it is Hitler's hand written sigature The document looks real enugh but I think it is a facimile sigunture I am by no means an expert
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    Quote by operaman View Post
    I don't think it it is Hitler's hand written sigature The document looks real enugh but I think it is a facimile sigunture I am by no means an expert
    He used one of these:
    Autopen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Otherwise he wouldn't had the time to do anything else then to sign stuff the whole day long.

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    Quote by Auseklis View Post
    He used one of these:
    Autopen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Otherwise he wouldn't had the time to do anything else then to sign stuff the whole day long.
    Genuine Hitler signatures can be a little of a minefield as a few years back there was that guy who forged the now well notorious but fake Hitler Diaries which had experts fooled until really indepth testing was carried out. The guy was an expert at forging Hitlers signature and spent most of his life producing them for anyone who wanted one. Sadly this kind of thing only adds to the problem for collectors. Some award documents for the KC did have genuine signatures-but not all. Advice should allways be sought when looking into purchasing something like a Hitler signature which range from £800 for a basic signed autograph album page. Award documents and signed photographs are now fetching quite astronomical sums. To be sure you are getting the real thing go to a specialist like Frasers of London. Based at their gallery on The Strand Frasers have years of experience and are the leading specialists in the field of Autographs from Henry the 8th up to President Obama. They have had some very good quality Hitler signed documents and photos and id rather buy with the back up of an unconditional guarantee of authenticity for life than not. Regards, Tim.

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    if the award was given to a General by Hitler, it may be?

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    It varied and there is no hard ans fast rule. Occasionally Hitler signed the Ritterkreuz Urkunde himself, sometimes a facsimile stamp was used.

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