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Article about: by Adrian Stevenson I have seen this "mine dog" photo many times online. I strongly believe the photo is not an original wartime pic. Cheers, Ade. Agreed. That's a T34/85 with its

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    I have seen this "mine dog" photo many times online. I strongly believe the photo is not an original wartime pic.

    Cheers, Ade.
    Agreed. That's a T34/85 with its 85mm main gun replaced with what looks like a scaffold pole and no defensive machine gun to boot.

    Regards, Ned.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Thanks for this pic.

    A friend of mine is making a mine dog harness for her dog to wear at our LH events.

    Cheers, Ade.
    Hi Ade,

    Maybe this could help? Unbelievably, even though these mine dogs were proven to be of more danger to their 'masters', the russians persisted with using and improving this method of A.T. warfare until July 1996!!!

    Woof...Woof...KABOOM !!, Ned.
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    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    DELTA 9 1/2
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    that guy with a Bent Bayonet is not Russian regulation , is it?

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    The bent M91/30 bayonet must be the result of either use or an accident. They were not issued like that!

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Quote by DELTA 9 1/2 View Post
    that guy with a Bent Bayonet is not Russian regulation , is it?

    This photo from Khalkin Gol, jule 1939
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    Picture #1

    This picture says it is 1930, but the helmet is the model 36, and the rifles are most likely SVT-38s, so it is more likely 1938, or 39.

    Boridin

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    I have seen this "mine dog" photo many times online. I strongly believe the photo is not an original wartime pic.

    Cheers, Ade.
    Ade is correct, this picture with the dogs is the May Day parade for 1937 in Moscow.

    Boridin

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    Quote by Komandir RKKA View Post
    Anti-tank dogs were not effective in Moscow battle 1941 and were not used in future
    They were not effective, because of the method of training.

    They were trained to eat, IE be fed, under tanks, but the training took place behind Soviet lines, and was generally done with T-34s. When released at the front, the dogs sought out the T-34s by smell, and this was not a very popular thing with Red Army tankers, to get attacked by your own dog mines.

    Boridin

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    The bent M91/30 bayonet must be the result of either use or an accident. They were not issued like that!

    Cheers, Ade.
    ...or it is just an optical illusion from an old photograph.

    ...because you notice in the second picture of the two same guys, the bayonet isn't bent.

    Boridin

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    Anti-tank dogs, winter 1941
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