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Stalin's 'Railway to Nowhere'.

Article about: Agreed. To what i've read Stalin's victims in general were around 30 million, whilst wikipedia lists from 3 to 60 million. I guess we will never know an exact number.

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    Agreed. To what i've read Stalin's victims in general were around 30 million, whilst wikipedia lists from 3 to 60 million. I guess we will never know an exact number.

    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    On wiki you see quotations of the total death toll of 1,4/1,6 million for 20 years (well composed article btw). I guess this estimate is pretty accurate as it makes sense statistically if you review the number of inmates and death toll rates.

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    No i was referring to the number of Stalin's victims in general. Not only for the Gulag, railway etc victims.

    I will paste below the text from wikipedia.

    Calculating the number of victims

    "Before the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union, researchers who attempted to count the number of people killed under Stalin's regime produced estimates ranging from 3 to 60 million.[91] After the Soviet Union dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives also became available, containing official records of the execution of approximately 800,000 prisoners under Stalin for either political or criminal offenses, around 1.7 million deaths in the Gulags and some 390,000 deaths during kulak forced resettlement – with a total of about 3 million officially recorded victims in these categories.[92]

    Photo from 1943 exhumation of mass grave of Polish officers killed by NKVD in Katyń Forest in 1940.
    The official Soviet archival records do not contain comprehensive figures for some categories of victims, such as those of ethnic deportations or of German population transfers in the aftermath of World War II.[93] Eric D. Weitz wrote, "By 1948, according to Nicolas Werth, the mortality rate of the 600,000 people deported from the Caucasus between 1943 and 1944 had reached 25%."[94][95] Other notable exclusions from NKVD data on repression deaths include the Katyn massacre, other killings in the newly occupied areas, and the mass shootings of Red Army personnel (deserters and so-called deserters) in 1941. The Soviets executed 158,000 soldiers for desertion during the war,[96] and the "blocking detachments" of the NKVD shot thousands more.[97] Also, the official statistics on Gulag mortality exclude deaths of prisoners taking place shortly after their release but which resulted from the harsh treatment in the camps.[98] Some historians also believe that the official archival figures of the categories that were recorded by Soviet authorities are unreliable and incomplete.[99][page needed][100] In addition to failures regarding comprehensive recordings, as one additional example, Robert Gellately and Simon Sebag-Montefiore argue that the many suspects beaten and tortured to death while in "investigative custody" were likely not to have been counted amongst the executed.[24][101]
    Historians working after the Soviet Union's dissolution have estimated victim totals ranging from approximately 4 million to nearly 10 million, not including those who died in famines.[102] Russian writer Vadim Erlikman, for example, makes the following estimates: executions, 1.5 million; gulags, 5 million; deportations, 1.7 million out of 7.5 million deported; and POWs and German civilians, 1 million – a total of about 9 million victims of repression.[103]
    Some have also included the deaths of 6 to 8 million people in the 1932–1933 famine among the victims of Stalin's repression. This categorization is controversial however, as historians differ as to whether the famine was a deliberate part of the campaign of repression against kulaks and others,[52][104][105][106][107] or simply an unintended consequence of the struggle over forced collectivization.[68][108][109]
    Accordingly, if famine victims are included, a minimum of around 10 million deaths—6 million from famine and 4 million from other causes—are attributable to the regime,[110] with a number of recent historians suggesting a likely total of around 20 million, citing much higher victim totals from executions, gulags, deportations and other causes.[111] Adding 6–8 million famine victims to Erlikman's estimates above, for example, would yield a total of between 15 and 17 million victims. Researcher Robert Conquest, meanwhile, has revised his original estimate of up to 30 million victims down to 20 million.[112] In his most recent edition of The Great Terror (2007), Conquest states that while exact numbers may never be known with complete certainty, the various terror campaigns launched by the Soviet government claimed no fewer than 15 million lives.[113] Others maintain that their earlier higher victim total estimates are correct.[114][115]"
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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